I wouldnt be sitting here envying the Browns for interviewing Caldwell. ZERO interest in him whatsoever.
SEC124 = I totally agree but I would rather waste time interviewing Caldwell then waste time with Gase to Kingsbury ,,,Id rather they waste NO TIME and just get to their first choice and not Putz around
One, i dont think they know who they want.. probably have a top 3 or so but dont see them all in on 1 guy. Two, all teams looking for a coach pretty much have the same lists so even if lets say Mike McCarthy is their target, they might habe to wait a week because of the logisitics in play.
Maybe they're getting the fallback interviews out of the way and leaving McCarthy for last so they can make him an offer on the spot. If McCarthy turns them down then they will already have their #2 selected and can go right after him. McCarthy may have told them he won't make a decision until after his other interviews are complete. If that's the case, better we interview him last (and close the deal on the spot).
More over reaction. The FO is going to conduct alot of interviews. McCarthy is scheduled to interview here as well. There's alot of travel involved by both the FOs and candidates but things are moving fairly quickly. These interviews usually last about 6 hours so your not interviewing 3-4 candidates per day unless your doing short first interviews to be followed up by real second interviews. If a guy takes a job with another franchise without interviewing, he wasn't interested in the job to begin with. Personally, I think Gase is a terrible HC, but several teams are interested in him. I don't know why, but they must see something I'm missing.
Just because you may not want Caldwell, that doesn't mean the Browns don't. Besides, the point is the Browns are interviewing the two experienced former HC's available while we're beating the bushes looking for the next McVay. If another newbie is what you want, then this is the way to go about finding one. When is McCarthy officially scheduled to interview with us?
They saw something in Hackenberg too... McCarthy as far as I know is scheduled to interview with the Browns, not the Jets. Travel shouldn't be an issue for an FO/Ownership tandem with nothing but time on their hands in the offseason. I don't think McCarthy is coming to the Jets and I'm not sure they're really interested in Caldwell. They're looking for the next McVay. Problem is, they wouldn't know him if he dropped hot coffee in their laps.
I dont know when MM is coming in, but many reports say Jets and Browns will interview him. He did turn down the Cards, so in that sense u would think he has some level of interest in us. You also sound as if “looking for the next McVay” is a bad thing, and going the experienced HC route (aka as previous failures to an extent) is the correct formula. The truth is there is no one foolproof formula and you just have to take the info available to you and make the best educated guess and hope u r right. There is no better examples of this than A- Belichek and B - Joe Torre (yankees) Both hires were frowned upon by the majority of media, fan bases, and peer executives... and each of them are arguably the best hires in their respective sports of their era.
And both were hired by Men with far more executive and business acumen than MM and CJ combined. If you must hire a newbie, you'd better be right in your evaluation of that newbie or you're no better off than you were before. Looking for the next McVay requires being able to spot one. One of those guys in the hiring process drafted Hackenberg and thought HE was a FQB. The other guy got the job solely because he was the brother of the guy that owns the team. Neither guy is in the realm of the Maras, the Rooneys, etc.. They would be better off hiring an experienced guy but hey, its Chris's team and if he wants a newbie, he'll hire a newbie. You should be used to endless rebuilds and OJT by now anyway.
It just seems to me that to many, yourself included, that McCarthy is seen as the ‘safe’ pick. While i wouldnt be heartbroken over hirimg him, to act as if he doesnt come with warts is naive. He hasnt won anything in 7 years or so with arguably the best qb in tje game. I give him little credit for ‘developing’ Rogers, and some of that proof is in how abysmal the other qbs were when Rodgers has been hurt. As for defense, MMs teams have been poor. The Jets have every right to consider ‘newbies’ when this is suposedly the #1 experienced candidate
Again, its Chris Johnson's team so yeah, he can hire Bozo the Clown if he wants to. McCarthy may not have won in 7 years with Rodgers, but the Jets haven't won in 50 years with Dozens of QB's and HC's. As a stabilizing influence, I'll go with McCarthy over any newbie any time. This team needs to go back to basics and learn how to win again. Those lessons are better taught by a guy that's been there and done that. Right now this team is in freefall. Teams want good Vets to come in and help the kids. They also value good Vet HC's to come in and help the franchise. Remember what happened when Hess bought in Parcells... Chris Johnson needs that kind of hire. If he fucks this up, this fanbase will start to desert the franchise and I'll be one of them.
Although Gase wouldn’t be my first choice, it seems I like him better than a lot of others and think he was the best piece Miami had. If Jets fans were Pats fans in 2000 I feel this would’ve been the same reaction to interviewing and hiring Bill Belichick.
What @Darnasty said. Gase definitely wouldn't be my first choice for HC, or my second or third. I'd certainly prefer Gase over a whole host of former HCs who are bad/stale, like Caldwell, Del Rio, Wisenhunt, M. Lewis, Koetter, Wilks, etc. Gase would also be preferable over former HCs that are just good/excellent coordinators, like W. Philips, Haley, H. Jackson, etc. And, given his experience, Gase might be preferable over some coaches and coordinators that need more seasoning, like Patricia, DeFilippo, Leftwich, and Modkins, etc. Now that we're deep down the list of preferences, would I prefer Gase over Schottenheimer? Having watched a lot of the Seahawks this year, Schottenheimer has really improved, a lot of that because Carroll had an intervention that forced him to stop the cute play-calling and play to the roster's strengths. It's made Schottenheimer more aware of matching personnel to the playcalling to the in-game moment. And, from all I've read on Gase, he needs the same thing. He appears to have a good offensive mind, but he hasn't had that kick-in-the-ass moment that every professional (especially young ones) needs once-in-awhile to course correct. If getting fired is that correcting moment, I'd prefer Gase over Schottenheimer. But, there's really only one question that Jets fans should have: would you prefer Gase over Bowles? For me, that answer is a resounding YES.
