I cant believe he wrote an article like this... In a perfect world we would have one of the FEW model franchises, but there about 28 other teams in the same boat were in. such a ridiculous article...
Meyer's favorite team, and one of his examples just signed Rocky Bernard, M Boley and C Canty. Let's see him rip the Giants for those signings now.
I wish this guy would break down each bad move that Tanenbaum has made since he's been GM. The guy has been doing a great job. It was unlucky that the team fell apart at the end of the season, but that wasn't a result of bad drafts or letting homegrown players go. You could argue that bringing in Favre was why they lost, but hindsight is 20/20. No one was saying that when the Jets were 8-3 and considered to be one of the top 5 teams in the league.
I didn't read every post in this thread, so excuse me if I missed something. But two of the three teams mentioned didn't win because of their QBs. They won because of their defense and running games. QBs get a lot of undeserved credit and blame.
Dude, we are defending the 2005-2008 Tannenbaum Jets, not when Ronnie Lott was picked. He is referring to the current Jets . Stay current!!!!
Come to think of it, the Giants did their share of free agent spending for the 2007 roster. Kawika Mitchell, P. Burress, K. McKenzie, D. Ward, Sam Madison, RW McQuarters, M Hedgecock were free agent signings. And now C. Cantey. It's not like we are the Raiders!!!
Cris Canty The Giants sign this guy to a year a 6 year, 42 mill contract and the media applauds them for improving on a strength, the defensive line without any mention of overpaying for a good, but not great player. They just made him the highest DT in the game, but boy if we did that, they would be laughing at us. Its a 2 way street.
The Giants are a SB contending team who won 2 years ago. They have proven management we don't. We deserve to be a second class citizen in this town because we play like one.
As usual you bring plain old fashion common sense to this board. He is just expressing HHO no difference then what we do on this board If Myers thinks he is so smart as a FB GM why does he not hire on to some team to see how well he will do in that role
Yeah, the Giants just spent 80 million dollars and two of the guys they signed were arrested for assaulting a woman last year. That's how you build a model franchise. Gary Myers, ladies and gentlemen.
Winston - Was their management "proven" two seasons ago? Most wanted Coughlin fired, Barber, Strahan, etc were bitching. Strahan was holding out, pulling a Favre on the Giants and Eli was being second guessed by the media and his teammates. Then they won and they are promoted to "proven"? They have had their highlights and lowlights like most others.
That's right when you win the monkey is off your back. I don't get why people here are upset that this team is always second guessed? This team has proved itself worthy of being second guessed consistently. Until the team gets the monkey off its back the team will deserve and have its critics. Its no different than praising every move that management makes because eventually you will be proved correct unless of course you aren't. I'm pleased the media craps on the Jets the pressure to perform should be all over management all the time. They are hitting the fans up for a big bill, there unproven results year after year deserves to be mocked.
Winning removes the "unproven" flag immediately. If Tannenbaum wins the Super Bowl next year nobody is going to be able to call him unproven. The bigger point, and it's a real point, is that the Giants have just been a much better team than the Jets since 1984. Through multiple management teams and head coaches the Giants have performed at a much higher level than the Jets during that span and so anybody who claims that the Jets are somehow similar to the Giants is just spouting bullshit, fan-based or whatever, but pure bullshit. Since 1984 the Giants have won 224 regular season games, 12 playoff games and 3 Super Bowls. The Jets have won 182 games, 3 playoff games and no Super Bowls. The franchises and management teams aren't even in the same ballpark over that span of time. When Gary Myers says the Giants are a successful team to be emulated and the Jets are an unsuccessful one whose management style is to be avoided he is just speaking the truth. It is what it is.
Yep it sure is what it is & many on this board have to realize that the media as you pointed out are only reacting to what our performance has been over say just during the Woody regime
Well just during the Woody ownership the Giants have won 80 games, 5 playoff games and 1 Super Bowl as compared to the Jets winning 71 games, 2 playoff games and no Super Bowls. It's not a lot different than it's been since 1984 and right now the Jets look like they're trending down again and the Giants are still at or near their peak.
Yes I would agree that the NYGs are still an elite team whereas we are are middle of a road to lower bottom of the middle of the road team. Certainly anything can happen to flip flop this but looking at it today it does not appear it will be the case for the 09 season in any case
That's not what he said. He said we are doing it the Redskins way, not signing our own players and building through FA. We are doing it the Giant way, building though the draft and plugging with FA's. If you want to say the Giants do it better, then you have a point, but we are not using the Redskins model of a quick fix. And the Giants spend lots of $ on free agents, they just don't make mistakes in the draft and that's a whole nother story
Now there are organizations that have done a fine job maintaining consistency from year to year. The Steelers, Titans, and Patriots are some of them. They all have differing ways of coming up with a pretty good final product. The Giants have been up and down in the past and I don't like that Myers made that comparison. We also are not the Redskins. They were competing for headlines with the Cowboys. They signed numerous players to silly contracts. Besides these two points, I'm not disagreeing with all that he said in the article. We can be second guessed about the past, certainly there were plenty of wrong decisions made, but recently I think the Jets have done a better job. Faneca was a must. Unless you like a revolving door at left guard. The Jenkins deal was a plus as well. The jury is out on Pace but he sure looked good early last season. The recent additions of Scott and Sheppard appear to be two good moves. Mike T is moving in the right direction. Why should he be held accountable for mistakes prior to his tenure? The one thing he has proven all along is that he can sure work the salary cap. As for the future, it is looking a little brighter. Even the darksiders may agree to this!!
