No we don't. Again, the Eagles and Browns can go fuck themselves. You draft Mariota. It's that simple. If we trade out of that spot with Mariota there, I am done with this fuckin franchise. For good
oh don't be so overdramatic. I like Mariota too but he's not the perfect prospect. I don't think he will be there at 6 but if he is and the Eagles or someone else wants to sell the farm for it, it might not be a bad option. Never rule it out. Either way it won't be a bad spot for the Jets to be in. Draft him or let someone trade with you, assuming he's there at 6 of course. I get the feeling though that if the Eagles or whoever want to move up, they will try to move ahead of the Jets knowing we need QB too.
lmao - I thought we weren't comparing him to Luck? But in all seriousness, I would like the Jets to EVALUATE a trade, if Eagles want to sell the farm [1st, 2nd, next 1st, Foles]. Then I will certainly consider the deal. Anything of less value, I take Mariota - and I prob would still take Mariota if I like him even more during the draft process.
The reward of Mariotta succeeding is worth the risk of drafting him and passing on a trade. You just don't pass on a possible franchise QB unless you are certain he isn't going to be good; obviously it's too soon for the Jets to know that so proposing they are better off trading him is silly. That being said, this mock draft is stupid. He didn't interview teams asking who they are thinking of drafting so there is no basis to any of his picks. How the hell did this become such an industry?
Wait, because I think he has a zero chance of busting I'm "comparing him to Luck"? No, I'm not comparing him to Luck, I'm saying he has ZERO chance of being Leaf or Leinart or JaMarcus or any of those true "busts". He's never going to rehab like Manziel. I've said his floor is Kaep or maybe a Dalton or Alex Smith or the like. ZERO chance of busting. Too much arm talent and athleticism and football IQ and work ethic. Not Andrew Luck. But not JaMarcus Russell. See the nuance? _
Could you imagine if he is there we don't draft him and we don't even trade the pick and we just draft someone else...
You are saying he's a sure thing which that case he is not. Luck had 0 or little of chance of busting therefore you are putting him at that level of being a QB prospect - that absolutely 100% is not the case. Alex Smith could be his floor, I agree w/ that comparison. Could also be his ceiling. I do not like Alex Smith as a QB because he doesn't have the arm to win big games. That could be the case w/ Mariota as well. Alex Smith at one point was considered a bust. Let's not forget those days. Prior to Norv Turner. I think the Rodgers comparisons are outrageous.
Luck was considered almost a sure thing to be great, not just that there was a zero chance of him busting. Comparing him to Luck would be saying he is almost guaranteed to be great. That's not what he is saying about Mariotta. He is saying he will not bust but is not guaranteeing he will be great, which was what was says about Luck. Saying that he will not bust is not comparing him to Luck at all.
This makes zero logical sense. In that, what you have said here is 100% illogical and has a a zero % chance of being logical. _
If you are implying someone is a sure thing out of the draft, I think you are implying that player is going to be a great player. He could very well bust. Sure not Luck, but those comparisons are like the Mannings, Elways, sure things. It doesn't have to be just Luck.
No no no. I never said "sure thing". I said zero chance of busting. Do you not understand the difference? _
What is the difference between a player that is bust proof and a sure thing? Is that not essentially the same exact meaning? To be bust proof you must be a sure thing then right? You are going to go out there and live up to your draft status. Alex Smith was not a sure thing in the NFL that's for sure.
There is no difference. Anyways, I can think of several scenarios where he busts. At the end of the day, he's not bust-proof.
Let me explain what I mean by "busting" and how that is 180 degrees different than a "sure thing'. When I say Mariota has a "very low to zero chance of busting" I am in no way insinuating he's Andrew Luck. That's just a stupid conclusion you are making and something I never said or insinuated. It doesn't even mean I'M saying he's a "sure thing" because apparently you're definition of a "sure thing" is Andrew Luck, which is also stupid. I don't consider guys that have played productive football in the league for many years "busts". Maybe they don't reach the heights one would have hoped for them, but they didn't completely shit the bed before staeling multi-millions of dollars and then exiting stage left. As an example, I don't consider Alex Smith a bust. Early on in his career he was heading that way, but he turned it around and had become a productive player. His first 3 years were brutal and had he continued to play that way, he would have been gone and remembered as a bust. His last 6 years have been, by any measure, pretty good. Maybe not what you'd like out of the first pick of the draft, but not a complete washout with none-to-bad production. When I say Mariota has zero chance of busting it means I believe there is NO chance he ends up like Ryan Leaf or Jamarcus Russell or Brady Quinn or Matt Leinart or Heath Schuler or Andre Ware or Rick Mirer or David Klingler or Akili Smith or Todd Marinovich or Jim Druckenmiller or JP Losman or Tim Tebow. He'll NEVER be one of those guys that you'll never get any production out of, or if you do, it'll be bad production. He's also not going into rehab like Manziel. Winston, while a great player COULD have off the field issues that could cause problems for him. That's just my opinion. Too much arm talent, too much athleticism, too much football IQ, too much work ethic, no off field issues (that we know of). Maybe he doesn't turn out to be Andrew Luck--I don't think anyone has said that. But his floor is very high. Above JaMarcus Russell and Ryan Leaf. _
