Insulting people doesn't change their minds. We get your point. Everyone who doesn't agree with you is stupid. Take it easy, dude.
I voted against it. who cares what BF has done in the past? he's 38 years old and going to a different team , come on!
I don't think that the NYJs can really lose by completing the Brett Favre trade. While it's a shame that a revamped CP doesn't get an opportunity behind this rebuilt OL, the NYJs have a once-in-a-lifetime public relations / marketing / and possible performance upgrade opportunity if Brett Favre comes here, and plays ALMOST as well as he did last year. The PSLs will be a lot easier to sell now -- the NYJs have done everything they could possibly think of with the money (cap) they had access to and the cards they were dealt to play with this off season. Nobody can possibly complain that the CS and FO are not trying to do their level best to build a champion. Brett is probably taking the biggest risk he could possibly take -- he's jumped off a very high cliff, completely out of his 'comfort zone'. I am sure those around him have encouraged this to "wake him up" and challenge him to become the unstoppable football player on the field he loves to see himself as. Brett will have to re-invent himself as a NYJ with these players, coaches, and this playbook (or some sub-set thereof). If Brett doesn't succeed with the NYJs it certainly won't be for not trying as hard as he can. He certainly doesn't seem to be doing it just for the money any more. His legacy can only take a big fall if he doesn't put out and gets into feuds with players or coaches and sulks his way into oblivion. The only loser is Chad Pennington. He hardly deserves to lose, because he has done everything asked of him everytime. The luck of the draw has changed Chad's venue, but he's steadfast and true, so he can certainly prevail wherever he lands if the OL isn't a NYJ sieve. Good luck to the NYJs. Good luck to us.
Thanks for the insight. You obviously can't think more than a year ahead and the arguments against this trade are too difficult for you to understand. You are a great addition to the board. What did we ever do without you before February 2008?????
HEY BRETT "Better a Jets than a Bucs !!!!" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Better Here than in Tampa, At least We don't have to play him twice a year.
Green Bay had already made a commitment to Rodgers. He wasn't going to either of the teams in Green Bay's division, period. Half of the rest of the teams you listed flat out suck, or have a starting QB they are comfortable with, and half of what is left have no cap space for a $12 million man. Face it... Clemens isn't ready and the team has been looking for every excuse to show Chad the door. We spent alot of money in FA and need someone to lead this team now. Favre gives us the best chance to win out of any available QB.
What does time on the boards have to do with anything? Back to the discussion do you really think we would be keeping Chad around more then another year or two anyway. So say we win 9 games this year and dont make the playoffs. We give up a 3rd rounder. Thats not going to kill our team for the future. Say we win the SB we lose a 1st rounder Ill take that in a sec. I think it helps our young QB's learn from a future HOF.
I'm against the trade on principle but I am planning to be mightily entertained by watching Favre deal with the Jets issues. It's going to be the best reality show on TV and we couldn't have asked for a more watchable Jets team this season
This is the best thing that could have happened to Clemens if he is really the future of this team. By all acounts both Chad and Kellen weren't that good and Chad was winning the comp. Chad wins the comp and he is much younger than Favre. Chad may well have been around for years and Clemens may well have had to leave. Favre is clearly a 1 or 2 year deal. He also has a much more of attack menatality than Chad does. Clemens now has a mentor who style is much more like his than Chads was. The O is likely to be revamped to fit Favre which also might be much better for Clemens long run? I really don't see how this impacts Clemens. If management believed he was ready this year they would have given him the job, they didn't and now it's clear they didn't believe in Pennington and still didn't give Clemens the job.
"1 of those 2 terrible years came when the Packers had absolutely NO RUNNING game, the other came from the return of an already aging running back. It's no secret, Brett needs a running game to help him out, so he doesn't have to carry the team." This excuse sounds familiar.
jwws, Here is the problem I have with you and others that say this is a band aid move etc. If the Jets traded Favre back to whoever for Pennington, where would they be then? Arguements that by the time the next qb is ready to takeover all of the players drafted or aquired this year would be past their prime...I mean...unless you are 90% certain that KC was the guy...whats the difference? What is your and others who are against this, solution to the qb problem. Giving Chad all the weapons in the world and winning 10 games and hoping for a wild card? Waiting out the Brady era and going with the ole 10 year plan? Not making the move and hoping KC is the guy? Has he shown anything close to that so far? Are you willing to gamble he is?..and then start all over again? Go with a QB who had the weakest arm in the NFL then had two surgerys on that same shoulder? A guy that cant complete a full season without injury 75% of the time? What exactly did the haters of this deal want the Jets to do. Draft a qb next year and sit around here and wait until Mangold and dbrick and Rhodes and Harris etc are nearing 30? I dont get what other options this team had. Every analyst of the Jets off season said "great moves...they will be better...but they did nothing to help their biggest flaw...qb". Wouldnt you agree that Favre is better then Pennington and KC? What exactly did the Jets give up to get him. A 4th rounder if he sucks...a 3rd rounder if he is enjoyable to watch...a 2nd rounder if we make the playoffs and a 1st rounder if we get to where we all want to go? Im not sure of the other gameplan you guys had in mind.
Yeah, we are basically paying the Packers for one season of performance, probably grooming time for the young guys. I still think we should carry 4 quarterbacks. I just had a Favregasm.
I am in favor of this trade. He is an upgrade (undoubtedly) over the current QBs on the roster. His cap number will come off the books in two seasons (at most). Farve makes things more interesting. The Jets aren't mortgaging anything unless he leads us to the promise land.
For trade! 100% for it. God, just imagine not having DB's jump every single out pattern! Imagine the thought of 3rd and long and not having to resort to draws and screens EVERY single time. Imagine watching our receivers not getting jacked waiting for floating passes to come down. Imagine the threat of actually being able to throw the ball downfield. Yeah, after all that, I talked myself into being against the trade...
I'm voting this Pro-Favre. I am a still a bit leery about him and his motivation, but I believe when he gets into camp and meets some fresh faces, plays some pranks, he'll be back to kick-ass Favre. I'm less worried about Favre's age than I am about bad Jets luck. We go from trading a perennially injured QB for the Iron Man of all time QB's... our luck he'll blow out a knee or rupture his achilles. I think we got a better shot of some misfortune like that happening. My biggest concern was what we had to give up to get him, and I believe we got a fair deal on that. Performance based compensation is the best course, especially with folks in the twilight of their careers. He's an upgrade to Pennington, without question. In either case we are looking for a QB in 1-3 years. In this instance we have some time between Clemens, Ratcliff and Ainge to see if any of them happen to mature enough to eventually be the guy, or look for one. How much farther ahead we are will be determined by how far we go on Favre's arm.
