The NFL has gotten soft ever since Obama has taken office, I'd like to see Obama try to disconnect one from the other! Check out this opinion article that I use as evidence!
Rahim Moore - $20,000 fine for hit on Donald Jones Devin Holland - $10,000 fine for hit on Dan Woodhead Mason Foster - $20,000 fine for hit on Chad Ochocinco
Bad rule, good call. To the guy who asked about playing safety, you are 100% correct. I played that position albiet not at any high level but your job is to make sure the guy doesn't catch the ball. In a split second he made the right decision. With the speed of the game which is never justified by TV he has no idea if that ball if going to be caught.
The outcome of this college play wasn't the WR lying on his back twitching. When you see that there is acute trauma to the brain. Personally I find that image of obvious brain damage disturbing. Ultimately this is what the league is trying to prevent, along with stories of ex players unable to lead a normal life due to accumulated brain trauma. The owners have a lot of money tied up in this sport and I think they are afraid that if people start perceiving it as barbaric it will start being viewed much the same way boxing is. When that happens the popularity of the sport will decline and the owner's will lose out. The problem is that there are some plays in football that happen so fast that it is impossible to position yourself to avoid collisions like this. Not an easy thing to solve without diluting the game.
That's a load of crap... no offense man. Boxing has faded in popularity because it's crooked and there are no quality American heavyweights. MMA is the fastest growing sport in America and it's probably more barbaric then boxing. People love barbaric sports, people don't watch boxing because it has turned into a joke.
That whole paragraph is a load of crap, how do players not accept that when playing a contact sport there is a chance that you might sustain a life changing injury? There was way more ill-intent in that college hit I posted than in the other, you can tell he just wanted to knock the receiver the fuck out. You all should just watch some baseball if you have a problem with that hit.
I'm not complaining about Wilkerson. But damn, Rahim Moore would have been a welcome addition to this secondary.
Boxing has always been corrupt. That never stopped it from being popular in it's heydey. I agree the lack of American stars is a big issue. Part of the problem with that is the pictures of Mohammed Ali, crippled by Parkinson's that most medical people believe is boxing induced. Few ambitious young athletes are going to commit to a sport that leaves it's greatest figure unable to talk. As far as loving barbaric sports, yes, lots of people like them. Lots of people don't. Something like MMA can make a lot of money appealing to those who do. Ultimately though it will never match the major sports in popularity. The owners of the NFL have invested a lot of money in the sport. I am sure Goodell is not acting on his own in his efforts to reduce certain types of injuries that occur in the NFL. My speculation is that the owners believe that this is negatively affecting the popularity of the sport, or the limiting the growth of the sport, perhaps especially into international markets.
That's a pretty cynical viewpoint - I'm not known for my love of big business (a quick check on the political threads in the Bullshit forum will soon show that) but I'm more inclined to think that the primary reason for wanting to minimize the risk of serious injuries to players is because they recognise it's a sport and thus not worth incurring serious injury for, not because they're concerned about what it will do to the bottom line. Anyway, that notwithstanding I struggle not to agree with Ocho on this - it's a football play that is created by the quarterback and leaves both receiver and safety the choice of making a play on the ball or not. Both do, massive collision occurs. Both get up and walk away. There's clearly no intent to injure and there's no reckless endangerment on the part of either player, so I really don't think that the league should be attempting to legislate or punish this sort of play. Maybe rather than try to define exactly what is and isn't going to be punished they should simply give themselves the scope to review any play after the event, whether the zebras called a penalty or not, and make an assessment of malice or reckless endangerment.
He hit a defenseless receiver, that would have been called 15 years ago. This is not a new rule or a new emphasis. It was illegal.
good hit bad rule as was stated before. the moron trying to act like a gangster and fight the guy after the good hit should get a bigger fine for being a retard. the real problem is this moron wide receiver didnt have his helmet on properly. if his chinstrap were tight he would not have lost his helmet and probably wouldnt have been injured. but he has to like how it feels... once again retarded. the nfl has gone soft because they refuse to really address the fact that 90% of the league is using some kind of substances to get bigger and stronger and faster. THAT is the real problem here. THAT is why guys are getting hurt and injured by hits. the one thing that cant get bigger and stronger is the skull and its contents, as little of brains as some of these guys have when they hit eachother at that speed with that much mass behind it the head just cant take it. there should not be 230 lb safeties running around as fast as they are. those should be linebackers. and always were until the big business of "performance enhancing substances" came into play a number of years ago.
Ha, my bad. I was getting this thread confused with the Ocho hit - the case for a reckless hit is stronger on this one, although I don't think it's that far away from being a good hit.
Maybe next time he should catch him in the air, make him a bed, lay him in it, and then tuck him in instead.
oh man i had on a local sports radio show on yesterday. they had a comedian from the area on there, and its this random whitebread guy who does the PERFECT Obama impression. he said hes had some fun time prank calling people they started doing a bit if Obama were to call Goodell about fines for hits "listen Roger, we need to just....let them play. and any fines handed out will be dispersed amongst the league minimum players as redistribution of wealth" he also said one time he called a friend of his who is a military contractor "now we all know in these tough times, sacrifices have to be made. we have to make some cuts, and you have the first opportunity to be a patriot cause were starting cuts with your job"
Make me a 6 foot 4, 230 pound athletic freak who makes at minimum 500% of what I hope to make 10 years out of college and you got yourself a deal.:up:
It doesn't matter what size you are if another big guy is coming full speed and knocks you senseless after the ball is gone and you are defenseless w/o the ball. W/ the ball is a different stroy but he hit a defenseless receiver, a rule that has been in place forever.
