Fix this OL now Saleh

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  1. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    I could be mistaken, but I think the CS's thinking was that Dallas was stacking more men on the Jets' right side of the line, and they'd have more success if they ran to the left rather than trying to beat more defenders on the right. That's the only thing I can think of, and I saw a poster on another site posit that. I don't even know for certain that Dallas did have more defenders on the left side of their defense. Even if they did, the Jets could have at least tried running to the right. We know that in a rushing attack that AVT and Becton are going to defeat their man, and Becton frequently can take out his man and then another. They could have seen if Hall or Cook could juke and get past another defender there, or maybe even put Ruckert on that side as another blocker.

    Regardless the Jets game plan both on offense and defense is mind boggling. They definitely should have had a TE or Bawden in the game to help with Parsons. I'm beginning to think that Payton was right about Hackett (although he shouldn't have said publicly what he did). What I can't figure out is why Rodgers likes Hackett so much.
     
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    Has anyone seen joe Douglas lately? it’s Monday and still no qb or ol signing, I think he wants to get fired at this point
     
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    stinkyB 2009 Best Avatar Award Winner

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    give it a rest dude....
     
  4. Jets79

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    I’m not sure what the OL answer will be…seems like they want to keep this lineup at least for a while and see if they gel, which I get since they didn’t play much together in the offseason, but shoot, how many games can you sacrifice waiting for that?

    At some point, if it keeps going the way we’ve seen in two games, they are really going to have to go with “put the 5 best guys out there” mentality…if that means moving Becton to LT and AVT to RT and then figure the 2 best guards, so be it….but something will have to improve.
     
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    It drives me crazy that we could have drafted Tristan Wurfs. As for the line it is just ugly to watch. They ar just so fucking slow against speed rushers. You think instead of backing up they would attack the pass rusher so he can't get around them but they keep backing up and doing the same shit over and over.
     
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    I think we should turn Becton into a fullback.
     
  7. IDFjet

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    I imagine people noticed that Edoga was starting LG on the Dallas OL?

    Apparently we never think to play a T at Guard--Edoga would have been a good depth piece had we thought so.
     
  8. Unhappyjetsfan

    Unhappyjetsfan Well-Known Member

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    I'm sure some of it does, but not all. His father ruined Chad Pennington's career.
     
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    That was an issue for sure but it was only an issue because the OL themselves couldn't block anyone. That stat about 3 of our 5 OL being in the bottom 7 of all OL last week is insane.
     
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    But if they do that then how are they going to keep on drafting defensive line players? And this team LOVES to draft DT/DEs
     
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  11. dmw

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    Yikes!
     
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    And Edoga went off injured so they put the "3rd stringer" in and our pass rush still couldn't get home...
     
  13. Borat

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    This passes the eye test. These 3 guys played like utter shit. I would say Duane was worse than the other two though. Probably if Dallas does not decline the penalty he caused, he would drop right there not to bottom 7 but bottom 4, but either way, that's 60% of the oline playing like the worst of the worst in NFL, and even AVT and Laken were below average. AVT only had 51 rating with 43 pass pro. That tip of the pass on the potential TD to GW at the end of the half was on him. Laken's pass pro was 48.

    Not going to win many games with that OLine play. Surprised Zach is not in the hospital. He will be there soon, as well as whoever comes next, unless something changes.
     
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    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    Sean Payton was right. Nate Hackett is no better than Paul Hackett was.
     
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    Hard to argue with that. Last year OLine was terrible. We have a new OC and new OLine coach. This year OLine is terrible. The common denominator are the players JD assembled, which are mostly the same.
     
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    The Vikings just signed free agent LG Dalton Risner to a one-year $4 million deal with $2.25 million guaranteed. Risner has strong pass protection skills with a PFF pass-blocking rating of 69 in his last 4 seasons with the Broncos.

    Would have been nice for Douglas to pick him up and keep Tomlinson on the bench.
     
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    Some times there are just bad matchups for the scheme and talent base that a team has, yesterday felt like the brain trust devised a game plan that directly played into the strengths of the Dallas D and to their own weaknesses on offense...
     
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    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    I don't understand why JD didn't sign Risner, but maybe he's not a good scheme fit or there's some character issue. Those are the only reasons I can figure why JD didn't sign him.
     
  19. Borat

    Borat Well-Known Member

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    Or JD thinks OLine is good, just needs a bit more time to gel. I see Dawand Jones now playing pretty well in prime time holding his own against TJ Watt. He was a guy who was projected 2nd round prospect by pretty much everyone but slid all the way to the 4th. JD didn't trade up for him in the 4th giving up minimal assets, like many on this board wanted, but instead decided to get extra minimal assets by trading down, then get injury prone 24 year old Carter Warren, who was projected as a 4th-5th rounder instead.

    Here is an example of Connor Rodgers' board, who is a pretty good draft analyst. Dawand 2nd round grade, Warren 5th. JD could have easily traded up a few spots giving up very little to get highly rated guy at the position of major need. Of course to do that you need to realize there is a need. Instead he traded down to get some more late round picks like Kuntz and picked older run of the mill 5th round prospect with the later 4th round pick.

    Well, let's hope our current OLine gels by this weekend.
     
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  20. Jonathan_Vilma

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    Infuriates me. I was calling for the Jets to do that the first time I saw him play tackle. The Cowboys do that with players all the time.
     
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