Are you rooting for WHAAAAHlabama? I'm presenting reality and you are twisting it to fit your argument. I can't help it. You say the value of points and wins disappears with INTS. I disagree. Thankfully the NFL disagrees too, otherwise we might be in last place. BTW, Ronnie Brown might be the best QB on the Phins by that logic. That's essentially what you are saying. Sounds crazy doesn't it?
YOUR reality, the reality of a football fan who doesn't understand the game and just looks at fantasy #s. Please tell me outside of the Ari game which game Favre hs been the difference maker in us winning?
Well, the bills? I don't even play fantasy football. Never have. When you present something other than nonsense, I'll treat you as someone that presents me with something other than nonsense. <shrug>
Favre was the difference maker Sunday? So I guess w/o the D turning Buffalo over(gave him the ball inside the 10 and he couldn't even lead us to a TD) we would have been fine? W/o Jenkins and co. stuffing the run and harrassing Edwrads we would have been fine:rofl: Favre played well(until his favreian moment in the 4th) but he wasn't the differecne in winning and losing. he led us to 19 pts and 3 were set up inside the Buf 10. Our D held Buf to 10 pts and favre gave them another 7. Favre almost gave up as many points as our D.
Ohhh hahaha OK. So suddenly the rest of the team matters. Look the bottom line is you want to see a safe little football game and since that is the case you think your ideas are the only correct ideas. How else should I handle this. You think you know everything and I'm fine with that. It doesn't exactly make your right though. Good luck in life.
Webster has a couple of words I would describe you.....ignorant.....stubborn....delusional? I should go cut my wrists with a spork because the internet rainman thinks I don't know football, yet all of the stats with the exception of the ones you've dug out solidify my statements. I will not post with you again, just because I'm running out of comedic material. Even the late-great Carlin couldn't hold up for this long. Good luck son.
I want to see a SMART football game, there are times to take chances and times to play it safe. He takes too many chances which is why his teams have underachieved in January most of his career. All your football related posts are comedic material b/c you don't have a clue what you are talking about and you THINK you do. Please don't reply to me anymore, I'd rather discuss things w/ posters who know what they are talking about.
You're arguing Chad has been better than Favre over the last decade. I was unaware that he lead his team to as many postseasons, or progressed further during the decade. So they each failed to reach the SB this decade. The next thing after postseason would be regular season. Favre has played better by more than is measurable in the regular season. Im not digging through your 70000 rambles. Instead I'll be happy if you don't argue he was great then. Countless times you have said "Chad when healthy, plays" and follow it up with "very well" or "great" or something along those lines. So considering Chad's only fully healthy season was '06, I figured that he must have played "very well" or "great". Ok, so we agree that Penny in '06 had a good but not great season. You are the one that put them in comparison that Penny is better since 2002 than Favre. Yet Penny has failed just as miserably in the playoffs, has won less games, doesn't have the "garbage fantasy #'s". Penny has nothing this decade that he is better at than Favre. You made the comparison, now you are saying it is "unfair to compare". You, not I, said that Favre was mediocre this decade and that Penny played better. Are these more excuses? When have I ignored his terrible post seasons? The only reason we would need to look at them to compare to Penny is if Penny had had good postseasons. Their post seasons are a mute point for comparison. One is 3-5, one is 2-3. Then regular season isn't even close. You have absolutely no leg to stand on in your ridiculous statement that Penny has outplayed Favre this decade. I've also never said he IS the greatest. I said he deserves to be in the discussion for top 5 QB's of his generation. I think its silly to try and compare QBs from the past to today. The game has changed too much.
Thats a good point in a lot of ways. However, one of the arguements people are making about Farve is that he was so important to GB's success. The same could be said about Elway. He was like 80% of their offense for most of his career.
Here's something funny.... Hey Junc, here's a quote from an actual football expert I'm kind of biased on him," Haslett said yesterday during a conference call with the New York media. "He's a guy that if people ask me, if you ever started a football team with anybody that ever played the game, who would it be? I would say Brett Favre. To me he's the greatest quarterback that's ever played the game. If he isn't the greatest, at least he's the most competitive. I love the guy." But you're right, I should bow to some "really nice guy" on a message board hahaha I love the fact that I'm me and you're you.
We probably could have just started a "Best quarterback ever?" thread. It's amazing how much mileage that question always seems to get. People are just fascinated by quarterbacks. And everyone has their favorite all-time QB.
Ya know, it's my thread and I'll be more than happy to see it disappear haha. Nothing productive came out of it. I was tired of seeing everyone slam on the guy like he's Brooks Bollinger. Had I know it would spawn such nonsense I wouldn't have even opened my mouth(fingers)
I stand by what I wrote. No coach wants to depend on a kicker to win any game at any time and especially in the SB. However, it was their kicker that won those games and not their QB.
Chad was 3 for 3 in healthy seasons leading us to the postseason and did so in a MUCH tougher division and conference. Prove it. Find the quote where I said Chad played great in 2006? You don't get off the hook that easily then take a shot at me. You were wrong and made something up. He hsn't failed as miserably, he's lost to BETTER teams playing in a tougher conference and in ONE game Favre has 2 MORE INTs than Chad has in 5 games. It's unfair to compare their careers, you compare Favre w/ the top tier guys but it is fair to compare a healthy Chad since '02 and to compare them this year based on the circumstances. All time Favre comes out on top, healthy since '02 I'd take Chad and this year Chad is playing better. It's a little different losing to the Falcons or Vikings at home then losing at Oak, NE or Pitt, right? I don't know who you think you are kidding. That settles it. The opposing coach this week praises the QB he is facing but I can't hold your jock:rofl: Seriously, how long have you folloed the NFL? Audacity? He didn't win 3 SBs for NE?
No but he played in three SBs that NE won...big difference. You of all people should know that as you also have the audacity to say that the Jets have 5 wins despite Favre not because of him.
On the "To those still upset at Favre" thread on 10-30-08 you made the following statement: "Chad, when healthy, is very good" You said when Chad is healthy he is "very good". Sorry you didn't say "great". Chad's only "healthy" season was 2006. What else was I supposed to deduce from this? I'm literally reading what you write, applying logic to it, and responding. I suppose now is where you say, "No, that time he was healthy he wasn't 'very good', but all the other times he was."
Ooohhhhhh so he had nothing to do w/ it, he was along for the ride which is why NE stunk until he stepped on the field in 2001. I got you. Chad was healthy in 2002, he didn't start the season b/c we have a vet that led us to 10 wins the year before and in 2002 Chad was GREAT. That was his only great full season and Favre and the Packers got a glimpse of that in week 17.
That's what you think of Favre with the Jets so why not? You are so ridiculously biased that you can't even see through your own charade.
