Favre Time

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  1. uberchink

    uberchink New Member

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    the QB has to get the ball where it's catchable. the majority of the time, even on a "good" throw, the receiver will have to slow down or speed up a little.

    Favre's first deep ball, the 56 yard TD to Cotch in the first game was your typical deep throw. play-action pass, safety bites and the WR gets some space on the CB. Favre underthrew him a little bit but since Cotch had some space on the guy (the ONLY time anyone has this entire season) he was able to still bring it in.

    most QB's will underthrow a little bit... if you're throwing 50 yards it's almost impossible to hit something dead on much less hit a moving target dead on. space like that is necessary on most deep balls. and sad to say it hasn't been there.

    i'm not gonna say every Favre bomb has been catchable. many haven't. but many were, so to put the blame on him when the majority of it should be going to the WR's is absurd.
     
  2. NYJets1135

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    if you read my post before attacking me you would see I said I don't blame Favre, however he most definately shoulders some responsibillity and you seem to be unwilling to admit that.
     
  3. GBA

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    It's funny that the two of them had better seasons last year and the year before than they are having this year. I watched every game and they didn't have any trouble getting open for Chad, even on the longer routes. They had nearly 4000 yards between them, with Coles injured last season, a lame-duck dink-and-dunk offense, and an atrocious offensive line.

    It's not one thing, it's another. We need to cut Chad because it's his fault we can't win a game, then it's Clemen's fault, then McCarein's fault (no arguments here), then it's Baker's fault, then it's Coles, then it's Coles and Cotchery. Sometimes it's TJ. It blows my mind. The problem last year was with our o-line, d-line, and secondary, which were all awful. And Chad couldn't reach the broad side of a barn. This year it's the exact same thing, only slightly less awful. Now we have Favre, who can't seem to hit the broad side of a barn. The problems lie in the trenches and in the secondary. And the playcalling. Edited.
     
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    u said a good deep ball needs to hit the receiver in stride. and i made the point that that's not true. and it's NOT true by any means. while it does help it's not necessary since most deep balls DON'T hit the receiver in perfect stride.

    beyond that i never said you only blamed Favre. likewise you should read my post since i did admit Favre screwed up a ton of deep throws.
     
  5. GBA

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    Most deep balls hit receivers in stride unless it's a hail mary. The receiver might have to adjust a bit, but it's almost always in stride.
     
  6. uberchink

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    this post actually makes sense. it's funny that almost every team uses play-action effectively and gets their guys open deep on with it. obviously, coles/cotch aren't the fastest WR's out there but if the D bites on play-action like the bomb to Cotch in Miami then they CAN get open.

    it's hard to say where the blame goes D's not buying that. but common sense would tell you that it's bad play-calling. the D knows when we're gonna run and they know when we're gonna pass.
     
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    then favre has hit his receivers "in stride" plenty of times this year. occasionally they've been caught but most of the time they've been incomplete anyways. or worse they've been intercepted. you can't blame him for NEVER hitting his guy "in stride" regardless if it's complete, incomplete, or intercepted.
     
  8. Firemangini Ed

    Firemangini Ed New Member

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    Last week I got killed for saying Favre was not a deep passing threat and now everyone is saying it. Look, Favre gets goofy on deep sideline passes, but with more running and more play action he could be hitting deep passes over the middle like he was doing in the beginning of the year.
     
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    play-action is how almost every deep pass is completed. expecting the deep throws to work w/out play action and with slow WR's is expecting too much
     

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