Ummm...NO! If you can't win with Andre Johnson and Foster...with THAT defense you don't deserve another shot...especially on a team as needy as the Jets!
Schaub did win with those guys. I think Schaub would be a good addition to the Jets. He gives us a vet that can step in if needed. We don't need to have another competition. We're a rebuilding team and Geno needs all the reps he can get. He was up and down in the first few weeks of the season, then he had a horrific 3 or 4 game stretch before bouncing back nicely in the last 4 weeks. I think he should get another year and with a year under his belt and a full offseason program, and with some added weapons on offense I'd like to see what he can do. We just need a capable backup and Schaub can be that guy, if he accepts that role.
Why are you so sure Smith is the guy? Schaub is the better Qb. Why ink in a worse Qb months before camp? I literally cannot understand your POV, other than that you somehow are invested in Smith. The Jets gave plenty of reps to Sanchez for four pre-seasons, and he sucked.
I'm not saying Smith is THE guy. I'm not completely sold on him my self. But he showed me enough to warrant another year. We're rebuilding so that means playing the young guys and developing talent. I'd like to see how smith would look with a full year of experience and an offseason program. If he still sucks then you have an insurance policy in Schaub that can step in and run the offense.
We don't need a clutch 2nd string QB, just a game manager. Although it would be a nice luxury. If Smith doesn't make the next step this year, we will be once again dipping into the QB draft once again
Good Points Why is Schaub on the team a bad thing? If Schaub beats out Geno, it won't be he first time that a vet beat out a younger QB If Geno sits, he sits. If he sits and learns, great. If not, then we blew a one pick in a draft where it looks like we got some real contributors .
IMO the notion that Geno needs anyone to push him is absolutely absurd. Geno isn't Ryan Leaf or Mark Sanchez, yukking it up on the sidelines or eating hot dogs. By all accounts, he's a hard worker and a serious student of the game. Most QBs who come into the league don't need anyone to push them, so the notion is just nonsense. They are expected to be team leaders and so are hard workers, proud and want to start. They are proud and want to play well, they don't want to be the cause of their team losing. I'm certain that very few are content to just sit on the bench and collect a pay check. Most Jets fans don't appreciate what he was able to accomplish last year. They're too focused on what he didn't do instead of what he did do. Following is a partial list of the things I think he accomplished last year. I'm sure other fans will have some other suggestions as well. He learned the entire offense and learned it quickly. This shouldn't be underestimated. Sanchez' first year or two he was only having to learn and use a small portion of the offense, Geno learned and used most, if not all of the offense. There were bumps in the road of course, but he managed to try to play and lead the offense while trying to remember the proper footwork, reads, and adjust to the speed of the NFL, etc. He gave the fan base some hope and the team respect. He showed much more confidence and poise than Sanchez and gave his teammates confidence. He made some beautiful plays that helped the team win He led several comebacks He played well on national TV in Atlanta His leadership developed and strengthened He worked on cutting down TOs Helped lead the team to an 8-8 record in spite of not having the same receivers in practice and games for much, if not most, of the season He gave the offense an additional threat and something for opposing Ds to account for (his running) His decision making and reading of the D improved as the season went along As for sticking with Sanchez last season, I don't think that would have been possible. I think the fan base would have mutineed. At the first screw up Sanchez made, the stadium would have been rocked with cascading boos and calls for Geno. Whatever confidence Sanchez had would have evaporated in short order. If Sanchez had started last year, I think the Jets' record would have been more like 5-11 if not worse. In some ways, I wish Sanchez could have started last season too. I think Geno would have been a lot better off last season sitting, focusing solely on adapting to taking snaps from under center, securing his footwork, release, etc., and refining the art of reading NFL Ds. With Sanchez starting, and a probable worse record, the Jets would have been better positioned for this draft and quite likely would have been able to possibly get players like Ebron, Evans, Mack, that they probably will miss out on, and could have even have had a shot at one of the top two OTs, Watkins or some other players, and that's just in round 1. The quality of their draft could have been a whole level higher than it probably will wind up being. That didn't happen however. We have Geno, and have reason to have some hope for the future. I fully expect Idzik to bring in a vet who will be a quality backup in case Geno struggles this season, and I wouldn't be surprised to see them draft a QB somewhere in the 3rd-5th rounds. In fact, if they can grab Garoppolo or Mettenberger somewhere in there, I hope they will. I'd love Bridgewater, but that's not to be.
Schaub would be a nice stopgap in the event that Geno struggles this year. If he comes cheap then the Jets should sign him. He's not the long term answer but a nice insurance policy for this coming season.
Well, if you believe Manish, it definitely won't be Schaub: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/jets-backup-plan-beats-qb-mccown-article-1.1698894 NY Jets are eying Bears QB Josh McCown John Idzik and Co. could draft a quarterback who needs to develop, but adding a proven veteran to protect them in case Geno Smith isn’t the answer will be pivotal. BY MANISH MEHTA / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 22, 2014 INDIANAPOLIS – The Jets may be cautiously optimistic that Geno Smith will make strides in his second season with an upgrade of skill-position talent around him, but the organization is preparing to have a solid contingency plan in place if he falters. The Daily News has learned that the Jets are eying Bears quarterback Josh McCown in free agency to provide a viable alternative in case Smith regresses. McCown, coming off an impressive season that included five starts in relief of an injured Jay Cutler, is expected to draw a fair amount of interest when free agency begins on March 11. The Jets, who are expected to release Mark Sanchez next month, believe McCown would be a quality backup. The Jets’ brain trust never truly viewed David Garrard as a viable option when Smith struggled midway through last season. Matt Simms, the No. 2 signal-caller on the depth chart, was even less experienced than Smith. Sanchez’s impending departure has fueled speculation about possible replacements. The News has learned that a reunion between Eagles quarterback Michael Vick and offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg, who worked together for four seasons in Philadelphia, is unlikely. Texans signal-caller Matt Schaub, who is expected to be released, would be a quality option, but sources told The News that he isn’t interested in being Smith’s backup.
My life long buddy says that he loves the Broncos because they always do what he wants them to. In a way he feels like the GM of the team. This started pretty much right after Peyton signed. I myself however, haven't felt that way as often. However... In this Idzik era, it may not be 100% name for name, but we as the NYJ have done pretty much everything I wanted. I wanted GENO and we got him. I wanted certain positions addressed in certain ways, and the NYJ did nearly exactly what I would do. Now, I want to add one of 2 qbs, or draft one in rounds 2-5. The only 2 guys I have any interest in, the NYJ apparently have the same interest in. SWEET, bottom line. I love this team.
the thinking may be, give Geno the reigns to start the season. See how he goes for 8-10 games. if somehow he's just not developing, a guy like schaub can step-in. Schaub is also good insurance for injury.
I don't know why people think bringing in a QB that would beat out Geno is such a bad thing. God forbid we get better at the QB position!
. Yep. That's really the question, you have a guy on the roster that needs to take , for sure, but does Idzik have the fortitude, to do it. No matter where Sanchez winds up, of he plays and put performs Smith, Idzik still looks bad, of not worse. Right now they have two starters second year in MMs system. Yes lets downgrade. If Smith were to tweak a knee, I'd rather see Sanchez walking onto the field than McCown, or Schaub.
I think all these reports of Jets showing interest in quarterbacks is not only to fuel competition, but to fuel Geno. The Jets are putting out these reports on purpose, so that Geno sees them, and knows that he has to get better. I like this, as Idzik is using the media to his advantage as opposed to having the media fuel doubt.
I don't know how true this is but Shaub was a good starter before this season. I guess bringing him to compete with Geno would be pretty good if the price is right.
