Ya gotta admit though that there's a difference in expectations between getting taken #1 and #53. Kitna was just waiting for Palmer to be ready to go and he was gonna hand over the reins, no ifs, ands or buts. Clemens is a real option for the Jets to look at if either he begins to look like an NFL QB or if Chad falters or is injured. There's nothing inevitable about Clemens presence on the roster the way that Palmer's was.
I can't believe people are still talking about playing Clemens. The coaching staff sees these guys every day and they seem to know what they are doing. If and when he is ready they will go to him, they moved him up to #2 for a while so obviously they are watching and haven't forgotten him. The fact is we have never not made the playoffs with a healthy Pennington, and that's the first thing you need to do if you want to win a championship. The biggest thing that has been in our way is having New England and Brady in our division. That makes our road a lot tougher than any other team from another division and that will still be the case if Clemens or anyone else plays.
I did. I saw the Jets get down by more than a score again and have no chance of coming back. Down 10 points entering the 4th quarter should not be a death sentence for a team, but it has been for the Jets under Chad's stewardship. Vinny would win one of those every once in a while. Actually he won 3 like that in 6 weeks in 2000. Chad doesn't ever win those games. That's why I think the Jets will need to replace him at some point to win a Super Bowl.
That's ridiculous. How many times have we even been down 14 (not 10) with Chad playing? We're usually ahead when he's in there or at least close. But I'm sure a lot of guys could lead a rousing comeback at NE in the playoffs, right? Oh yeah, it's actually never been done.
Clemens talk now is just trolling. Pennington is the man until further notice. With just a few upgrades the Jets can go from above average to elite, with "noodle arm" at the helm.
"The interesting item from Mangini?s season-ender was that he would not anoint Chad Pennington as the starter going into next season. He was complimentary of Pennington, said he knew more about him than he did coming into this season, but said it is a philosophical decision to provide competition at all positions. Mangini also skirted some questions about whether the Jets can win a championship with Pennington at quarterback, and whether there would be an open competition if Tom Brady were the Jets QB."
We all know Kitna was a caretaker. If, like Palmer, Clemens was taken 1st overall, he just about would have the 2007 starting job handed to him. Also, the '03 Bengals didn't make the playoffs. Factor that in with the contract Palmer received as a rookie and he had the job handed to him. The Jets situation is, of course, different because they made the postseason and the young guy isn't going to have anything handed to him because he wasn't a top pick. That's why I put those qualifiers in there. Clemens is going to have to outperform Pennington in camp or wait for Pennington to suffer an injury or play poorly.
How is it trolling? We're talking about a player who could quarterback the team next year. Is it trolling to talk about players the Jets could draft in April?
I totally agree....he played his ass off yesterday when i thought he was gonna go into a shell.....With a running game and alittle better protection i think we could've pulled it out or at least make it closer.....Clemens must sit PERIOD....Chad is starter for next year.....Chad was really impressive considering....some people need to stop with all this Clemens BS he's not ready.....
The Jets are 6-26 in games they enter the 4th quarter tied or trailing under Chad. They were 11-19 under Vinny from 1998-2003 when they entered the 4th quarter tied or down. There's absolutely no comparison between those numbers. With Vinny the Jets were almost always in the game. With Chad the game is dying if they enter the 4th quarter down.
O, Ok. Thanks for pointing that out. I didnt notice. Im sticking with chad , clemens will get his shot sooner or later. Hopefully later. We have a leader, a genuine good person at the steering wheel for this team and I could not be more happy with that. I think His arm will be better next season also. Go jets.
I just don't see it. Chad started this year just to "hold the fort down" while Clemens gets ready. If he's ready next yr, he starts, if not, it will be one more yr with Chad. But I expect Clemens to start next yr.
The one thing that we can count on is that Mangini will make the right choice, whatever that is. He's smart enough to know that the only meal ticket that actually exists is the guy who takes you to the Super Bowl. Everybody else is just a placeholder until you find that meal ticket. Doesn't have to be the QB by the way. Ray Lewis did it for the Ravens and Terrell Davis for the Broncos. And no that was not John Elway SUDDENLY figuring out how to win Super Bowls as he approached retirement, it was having the best tailback in the game over a 2 year period.
Wrong. First of all you shouldn't put words in my mouth. And as far as that goes, Vinny did prove he couldn't play anymore in the beginning of the 2002 season. How the man still has a job is beyond me. How is Clemens better? When has he shown this? Can he lead? We have a team that just won 10 games so you wanna hand it over to some 2nd round kid from Oregon? Clemens proved he wasn't better when he lost the competetion in training camp. Is the great O-line the one with 2 rookies and Anthony Clement and the great running back Leon Washington?
Good point. Not only that Cutler was a 1st rounder. When you draft a QB in the 1st round your basically saying your time is up, your done. No matter what your QB does you have to eventually give it to that first round guy. Look at Brees. They drafted Rivers in the 1st, Brees became a top ProBowler and they're there kicking themselve saying "SHIT! Well... Brees your done. Ball goes to Rivers." Don't want to have a Brees situation do you? Don't think you will. For starters Clemens wasn't drafted in the 1st, there's nothing to say that he is marked in stone to eventually lead the Jets like Rivers was for the Chargers, Vince for the Titans, Smith for the 9ers, Matt for the Cards, Cambell for the Skins, and Rodgers eventually for the Packers. His drafting was NOT saying the same thing. I saw it more as a "just incase Penny is not the same guy anymore". He is, so Clemens rides the pine.
your wrong about Clemens. He would have been a 1st rounder but broke his leg. As for the comment that a stronger arm QB could have beaten NE, how well did Chad do in the RZ. You know why? cause he cant fricken fire the fucking ball. Please, someone name me just 1 touchdown that was a bullet between a defender and WR in the endzone. None. All the TDs are run ins or floaters to the corner. You know, this story is getting tired and I'm tired of making my poiint. You guys can stay with Chad, if Clemens is ready I want to give him a shot. And please, I was around for Namath. Don't even compare Chad to him cause he couldnt wipe his shoes. Namath was the only QB to throw for 4000 yards in a 14 game season. It was also very entertaining to watch the bomb once in a while. My eyes go dry watching the ding, dunk, ding, dunk by Chad. I have to have an espresso to stay up to wath Chad play.
