I Just really hope we trade down and get at least a 4th for doing that... hopefully a 3rd. I like Rhett Bomar if he can sit one year and learn but that all depends on what our QB Coach, schotty, rex and Tanny think about Clemens and Ratliff.
I'll go with either Tyson Jackson, Knowshon Moreno, or Vontae Davis in the first round. Jones has young legs but is still 31 and if the Jets want to pound the rock as much as they say they do then I wouldnt mind adding another RB who could eventually form a great duo with Washington once Jones is gone. The Jets D-Line is bad. Thank goodness for Jenkins who is a very good 3-4 NT. I love Ellis but he is getting old and his production is down. He can still be effective but he needs some help. Kenyon Coleman hasnt done much. Tyson Jackson could come in and be a good player for us. It starts up front. The Jets added Sheppard but they still need some insurance just in case Sheppard doesnt revert to his old self and plays like the Sheppard of 2008. If that happens and the Jets dont have a backup plan then there right back where they were in 2008 CB wise. Nobody to play opposite Revis. Davis can come in and if Sheppard proves that he can be the Sheppard of old again then great you got Davis as your Nickel. If he cant be then Davis can step in and start with Revis. I'm not sold on Lowery or Strickland. I know the Jets need another WR but I really think there is good depth to be had at that posistion in the second and third round. If the Jets cant get Crabtree or Maclin I would pass on WR in the first and look to add a guy like Robiskie, Nicks, or Britt in the second round. It least one should be available.
Isn't Percy Harvin a combination of Leon Washington and Santana Moss. One we already have and the other I'm happy to see drop passes and run out of bounds in another uniform. I pass.
i would trade out of the 1st round and maye even the 2nd every year and still have the best all around team in the nfl. swap #17 for 2 or 3 solid o-linemen or a great pk and a solid safety and de. and we would still have millions of cap space to 'buy' fa's. there is SO much talent in the 3rd round on down and the thought of having 2-3 times more picks than any other team is tempting. Imagine getting 4 kerry rhodes, 3 leon washington, 2 tom brady's and a few wayne chrebets EVERY year.
Are you kidding me? Have you ever seen Harvin play before? lol, the man NEVER runs outta bounds...He's not "Sideline Santana" If anything...I wish the kid WOULD run outta bounds because Harvin plays WRECKLESS and shows no fear on the football field. And I'm not understanding all of this "Harvin is the same type of player that Leon is"? Leon was never a threat like Harvin is @ WR...Never. Sure, Leon can catch outta the backfield but Leon cant hold Harvins jock strap when it comes down to being a WR because Leon is a HB, not a WR.
but the percentages of finding those diamond in the rough players is not high... hence the term "diamond in the rough." This team needs to keep hitting home runs with the 1st round picks like they have been in the past few years.
I don't want Sanchez or any of the top three qb's. None of those guys are likely to play better this year then Ratliff or Clemens. And drafting underclassmen qb is extremely risky. While Tannenbaum has final say on who they draft, Ryans ability to spot defensive players that fit his system leads me to believe that he will push for certain defensive players. I see Rex loving Maualuga and Gilbert. The Jets need a wr, but either of those guys will have a much bigger impact next year then drafting a wr that will need 30 games to become good. The Jets have the core of a defense that can be an elite super unit with a few more pieces.
One thing I've learned about the draft is that you're never gonna please everyone w/ a pick(especially on a jets message board).Also, if you get your heart set on your team drafting one specific player, you're almost always gonna get your heart broken. Best thing to do is to hope your team gets good value at their given spot and ideally fills a top 3 need on the roster. These are a few players I like at # 17. 1. Sanchez 2. D. Brown 3. Maclin 4. Gilbert 5. Oher
We need a WR no questions asked. I don't know much about college ball and who is legit and who isn't; but we need a WR round 1.
By the time Jets pick in round two, you looking at the third tier of WR in this draft. As for QB, what I don't understand is, people keep dissing the current QB's by saying draft A QB. How can you say Sanchez or Freeman is a better if you don't give the QB's now a chance to show what they got? Sanchez and Freeman showed us just as much as the others. Not including 2 yr ago with a bad o-line for KC.
And Harvin is just as much HB as a WR. If Leon was split out wide in college, he could fill the same role that Harvin does in Florida's offense. Besides, a very sizeable portion of Harvin's damage was done by extending short passes (screens, dumpoffs, etc) into large gains, which is EXACTLY what Leon does for us now when he's not getting carries. Yes, Harvin could probably do Leon's job a bit better than Leon, but he's just not worth spending the #17 pick for the upgrade; he doesn't provide the value to us that someone who could actually fill our need for a top pure receiver would. I don't know if you didn't see my post in the Stuckey thread or if you just chose to ignore it, but Jeremy Maclin is a gamebreaker like Harvin and is more along the lines of what we're looking for. Like I said there it's not that I don't like Harvin, he just doesn't provide the same value as someone who would be a pure receiver for us.
I agree. With Ryan saying that he has confidence in the QBs that he already has on his roster, drafting a QB high in the draft doesn't seem like the most pressing need to address. Sure it would be nice to have another young guy to start grooming for the future, but the QBs coming out next year are going to be better than this year's in most people's opinion, so why not be patient and give our untested guys a chance this year. Personally, I hope they go either defense or RB in the 1st. I think Moreno would be a good pick. I liked what I saw of him in college, and I didn't realize, as someone posted earlier in this thread, that he grew up a Jets fan and wants to be a Jet - that always makes a player more intriguing. If they were to go D in the first it looks like there would still be plenty of quality RB options available in the 2nd as well. As far as WR, I'm not that intrigued with any of the guys that would require a #1 pick to get, other than if Crabtree were to slip that far, but that's doubtful. I think an interesting pick in the 3rd or 4th might be Ramses Barden from Cal Poly. I've only seen highlights of him, and I know he played at a small program, but the dude is 6'6" 230 and had 4,200+ yards and 50 TDs. And I know he's obviously not a speed guy like many people want, but on sheer size alone a guy like that could be a major threat in the red zone - something the Jets have sorely needed these days. Anyway, just my thoughts at the moment.
raiders will probablyl and should go with a tackle in the 7th pick to compliment russell. oher or smith would do because i doubt monroe falls
I rank Harvin as the #2 WR behind Crabtree (Talent wise) but I have a feeling Crabtree AND Macklin will both be off the board @ when the Jets pick @ 17because Macklin has the size that most teams are looking for over a smaller Harvin. Thats the reason why I'm in love with Harvin, I just feel he's going to be the BPA @ 17 but thats just me. What are your thoughts on trading up for Crabtree though? Cotchery, Crabtree and Stucky could be solid for years to come.
You don't say... No. I'm sure some people would love to sacrifice depth at 3 additional positions in order to have solid WRs for years to come, but I'd prefer not to give up 3 picks this year and 1 next just to move up for Crabtree.
The Jets will not pick a QB in this draft - a smokescreen. TE is an absolute need - ie. they do not have anyone who is a blocking TE. 1st rd: Jets will attempt to trade down. If they trade down and get a 3rd rounder- Pettigrew is a possible 1st round pick if the Jets want a complete TE. Otherwise, they will go with Anthony Hill, TE from NC State in the 4th round. If they can't trade down - Wells, RB, Jackson/Gilbert, DE, or Davis, CB. The Jets will not pick a QB or a WR in 1st round. 2nd rd: If Jets draft a RB in rd 1 then: OT (Kropog or Beatty), WR (Robiskie) If the Jets trade down and get an additional 3 rd rounder,then here are the 1st 4 rounds: Wells, RB or Gilbert,DE Kropog,OT or Brown,RB Robiskie,WR Canfield, OG Hill,TE The RB situation will depend on what the feeling is about Jones. They may concentrate on RB next year and focus on OT,OG,DE,TE this year. A WR will be picked, but not a 1st rd pick.
