Everyone off the Titanic...Another coaching defection

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  1. NYJFan10

    NYJFan10 Well-Known Member

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    How are the Jets one of the best jobs in the NFL right now?

    -No franchise QB
    -Salary cap hell
    -A head coach tethered to the GM

    All these arguments about the Jets taking more time ring hollow when their first list of candidates have gone off the board entirely. It's easy to say, oh I want a guy that wants a challenge - eventually they'll find someone who does - but pretty much all of these candidates are first-timers, and may not get another chance since GM turnover isn't anywhere near as prevalant as head coach turnover. I can't blame anyone for not picking the Jets over other jobs where you don't have 'all' three strikes against you right off the hop AND are in the biggest media market where you'll get scrutinized within in an inch of your life.

    Just because you eventually get someone who wants the job, doesn't mean you're getting the best candidate.
     
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  2. Realistic Jets Fan

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    If you repeat bullsh1t 200 times on a message board it's still bullsh1t.

    All of your premises are questionable IMO

    All of your "first list of candidates that have gone off the board" were also FIRST TIMERS. (Telesco, Dorsey and Caldwell)

    Even the vast majority of gloom and doomers all don't want a retread

    There are only 32 of these elite jobs on the planet and hundreds of terrific candidates dying to get one of the ONLY TWO still in play.

    Salary cap hell...disproven and solved by early February at the latest

    Head coach..one of the better ones

    QB....25 or so NFL teams dont have this franchise QB....those without Brady Brees Rodgers Luck Mannings. This is a challenge good GM candidates crave


    But go ahead and repeat these tired and lame arguments 30 more times
     
  3. Jon_Snow

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    In Your Opinion
     
  4. Realistic Jets Fan

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    What do you think IMO stands for?
     
  5. PearsonJones

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    some people just like to moan about the mess.

    But because of your points 1 & 2 (miss management of contracts) is the reason why most GM jobs are available.

    Its ok, you just keep moaning why no-one wants this job.
     
  6. Big Blocker

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    I had to laugh when AS called Woody incredibly successful. Yeah, incredibly "successful" at being born into the Johnson family.

    Of course most people call that luck, but in AS's world...

    Woody on his own has not been successful at anything.
     
  7. Biggs

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    He can't even successfully give away his money at the same clip his trust fund produces it.
     
  8. alleycat9

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    well said biggs.
     
  9. Big Blocker

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    Heh, I think I know what you are referring to, but we digress.

    I liked your point about how there are really only a handful of really good GM's and how limited the talent pool is, if by talent we mean the best talent, rather than this ridiculous notion that there are any number of people who can be plugged in, and the related implication that there is something so singular and particular about the Jets that they need to find just the right person for them, as opposed to who the best people are for any NFL GM job.

    And of course the notion that the Jets had to wait until after Tanny was fired to find out who the best person for the Jet GM job is, as opposed apparently to any other GM position, is equally without merit.
     
  10. TNJet

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    Keep on pumping the sunshine. Rex's cloud weighs heavily over the horizon. We need all the sun we can get.
     
  11. Realistic Jets Fan

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    It would be a lot more gloomy if I were forced to live in a trailer trash hole like TN
     
  12. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    Let's not make this personal.
     
  13. Barcs

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    Just curious, is there anybody on the Jets that you do not hate? Maybe Revis?
     
  14. Jon_Snow

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    I was going to bring this up when someone said we rushed into hiring Tony Sparano, because he was hired the day after he was fired by th Fins. Like we conducted a phone interview and hired him the same day. lol Like you said most of the decision process happens long before they officially interview their targeted candidate. Makes it all the more humorous they delayed their press conference to announce the hire of Caldwell then he turns down the Jets. They then are left scrambling to open up their search to what ever left overs no one else wanted. Just like at QB they had no viable back up to Caldwell. How much longer is this farce going be drawn out? When are they going to get OC? The Jets seem to struggle with the most basic tasks.
     
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  15. TNJet

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    Well Barfs, I don't like Sanchez or Rex. Everyone else is fine.

    Next question
     
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  17. ArmandJ

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    Yep, this is such a farce. Waiting a WHOLE 17 days to hire someone to one of the most important positions in football. How dare we take our time.

    I bet if Rex were gone, you'd be loving how long this took.
     
  18. Jon_Snow

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    Do you think the Jets didn't start the search until after they fired Tanny? So its a lot longer than 17 days. How much time is necessary more than a month? Maybe if they had the foresight to have 2nd, 3rd options ready, considering how undesirable the job would be to the best candidates who would be picking where they want to go.
     
  19. ArmandJ

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    Best candidates that EVERYONE on here wanted:

    Caldwell: Picked a job with Jacksonville

    Ross: No job.

    Gamble: No job.

    Dorsey: Picked a job with Kansas City.

    These were the people we interviewed. The only one we actually had someone say no for was Caldwell. And he had three interviews with the Jags before having our second interview with us.

    We obviously have the foresight to have our 2nd and 3rd options ready since we are interviewing them. If we did not, we would have ended up with Cohen. Like I said, if we fired Rex, I bet you would not be saying a negative word.
     
  20. Jon_Snow

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    Actually you seem to be the one trying to steer the conversation in another direction. I'm talking about the time its taking is too long. Considering how much work there is to do with the Jets we shouldn't be the last team to hire a GM. You seem very quiet about the point that its been more than 17 days. The Jets are known for their lack of direction. If like you say there are so many good candidates well pick one and let him role up his sleeves at get to work. Or maybe because Rex is a proxy GM they're in no rush.
     
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