I always give credit to the jets when it’s due but this ranking is crazy to me. How they don’t have the raiders, who added freaking devante Adams and chandler jones is beyond me. They should be 1 or 2 ahead of Buffalo. Jacksonville should be on that list, maybe ahead of Buffalo as well. The Bengals revamped their o line which is what they desperately needed. The author was very generous with his characterization of the jets players lol. Calling Reed a #1 corner is ridiculous. Whitehead is a decent player. Calling Martin the best pass rusher in Houston isn’t saying much, like calling Mills the best qb in the city. Not trying to shit on the jets at all, Douglass actually made some additions for once, but I don’t think they are close to 3.
Jacksonville had a terrible offseason. Just because their roster looks better than it did last year doesn’t mean they had a good offseason. And I think this list was made before the Raiders traded for Adams or sign to Jones but obviously they should be number one. edit: Back to the Jaguars for a second now that I’m thinking more about it… Where did they upgrade outside of cornerback? They brought in two new receivers that might not produce more than the two they replaced. They brought in a right guard for huge money that hasn’t been healthy in years. They tied up how many millions in a left tackle on the franchise tag? They definitely got better at linebacker but that’s also coming off of a terrible year from Myles Jack so how much did they really improve? Foley is a good player so I will give them that upgrade on the DL as well. But when you look at how much money they have tied up in all of their newest acquisitions and then compare it to how much they actually upgraded… That is just horrendous value.
BoJ I love you and hate you at the same time. I hate you because I hate Bills fans. I was arrested back in 2014 at Metlife for spilling beer on Bills fans who were harassing a father and son who were Jets fans. I just was an asshole and paid for it. I hosted Pats fans and Dolphins fans at Metlife for years. Not sure why but it was always Bills fans who were the big assholes with limited success. That's why I hate you because you are a Bills fan. But you are also one of the most fair, knowledgeable and humble opposing fans in this forum. That's why I love you. In this particular instance, the rankings were done before the Adams trade. But I see your point. Now tell me, what do you think Jets' biggest hole in the roster as of today and how would you address it?
Thanks, Brook. Sounds like it was the bills fans that were assholes and not you. I think the jets have many needs, like corner, edge rusher, and receiver being the most important (oline after that). I drool over Sauce Gardner and I’d take him at 3 if I were the jets. There are many quality receivers, the jets could address that at 10 or probably better with one of the two 2nd rounders. I assume both edge rushers would be gone 1 and 2 but if one of those teams takes Neal I might consider the edge rusher over sauce. But, in this landscape, it’s hard to find elite corners and you don’t find many who are shut down like Revis but stand at 6-3 and are long like him. I like him a lot
I don’t mind teams overspending for talented players (Kirk) especially when they otherwise wouldn’t be a destination to attract such players. If you have the money, it’s ok to spend it on quality imo, unlike Joe Douglas who I’ve been very critical of for just sitting on piles of cash each offseason and doing nothing. What I don’t like is overspending on trash players like Zay Jones. That GM should be tarred and feathered for that. But I like the other moves. I like Kirk, I love Scherff, they upgraded at corner and I like the two defensive players from the jets and falcons who’s names I will not attempt to spell. They improved their team a lot imo.
There’s a Big difference between overspending to get your guy and overspending which leads to a complete reset of the wide receiver market. That’s exactly what the Jaguars did with that Christian Kirk contract. Is he anything more than a solid WR2? They already had one of those. They didn’t improve anywhere near as much as their payroll says they did.
We can disagree on money, but the players they added are much better than the players the jets added. One thing Joe Douglas has done well is that he’s been smart with the cap and contracts, which has gotten him nowhere and he’s still picking in the top 10 3 years later. He adds average to good players and thinks that’s going to do anything to compete with the elite teams. I said this last offseason and the one before, but we’re only a week in, and there’s a lot of good players left for him to add on cheaper contracts. Both off-season I expected him to add quality players after the big fish were gone, but he didn’t. We’ll see if he does this time
Who did the Jags add that is more than average or good? Falcons LB, Foley annnnnd… Tomlinson is a pro bowler, Reed and whitehead are entering their prime and already above average, Uzomah and Conklin are huge upgrades which is what this conversation was originally about.
I have to strongly disagree with you. Last year we had shit at TE. They couldn't block and couldn't catch. In Uzomah and Conklin, JD added two TEs who are both excellent blockers and receivers and they can make plays. Last year RG was a black hole for us. It hampered our rushing attack and we were lucky it didn't get Zach more seriously injured. In Tomlinson, JD added a Pro Bowl OG who has been great in this scheme and been a rock not missing any games since 2017. Whitehead is more than just a decent player. He is a very good player and is improving. He's great vs the run and screens, has improved in coverage and brings something the Jets didn't have last year...an enforcer in the secondary. The Jets' safeties last year were horrible vs the run. They were the 4th worst in the NFL. We'll see about Reed. Between Hall and he they had a ton of passes defensed last year. JD didn't have to grossly overpay and got them at a good value.
Great teams tend to be solid everywhere, and then have a couple elite strengths. We need to get to at least solid/average everywhere before we can worry about creating the elite strengths. That's why Douglass is going for the good value, quantity over top quality signings. We had a lot of holes to plug. Even after we plug the holes, and maybe draft our way to some genuine strengths, we're only going to go as far as our young QB will take us. We can debate signings, but if he doesn't progress, none of it matters.
Because 22M per for an aging WR who's career is on the downturn is a Macc move? Because we all remember how Cooper was the missing piece for Dallas and playoff success was a given with his addition and how well that worked out?
Throwing around his 2022 cap number was always a terrible argument for why we shouldn’t have traded for Cooper. It’s 2022, people should know by now the cap isn’t real. The Browns restructured his deal and his cap hit is a whopping $4.9 mil this year. If he’s cut using a post-June 1 exception then he only has a 3 mil dead cap hit next season and the season after that while the team saves $20 mil each year. It was a stupid decision to pass then, it’s an even stupider decision now.
Ah I see, turning his salary into a signing bonus to lower his cap hit and paying him off in one shot isnt really paying him? Hes not worth the money. I dont care how you restructure the payments
I’m tired of this misleading timeline “3 years later”. He was hired after the draft and after FA. His 1st year, he drafted Becton. 1 year later he drafted ZW. 2 years later he drafts ??? If he’s drafting in the top 10 next year aka 3 years later and still not making major FA signings, you’ll have a valid point. But let’s wait for that time to come.
Are you the owner? If not then you shouldn’t care about what money he’s being paid if it doesn’t affect the salary cap. It was a gaffe. Plain and simple. And salary is not a justifiable excuse anymore.
The jets had zero output in the run game last.year because they were LAST in rushing attempts. they also had ball security. One fumble lost all season. expect a huge rise in rushing attempts this year. Lam
Frankly I don't care where some "expert" ranks the Jets for the off season. It only matters if it translates to Wins on the real season. Yes, I'm pleased with how the FA has gone so far, and I expect Douglas to nail the draft, but I was happy when he drafted Becton and look how that's worked out so far. I'm still cautiously optimistic, but IDC who "wins" the off season.
The salary cap might not be a good reason to pass on a #1 WR difference maker who can produce…. But there were plenty of reasons to pass on Cooper. 1. He reportedly doesn’t have the personality that JD is looking for in his locker room 2. AC is injury prone since college. For all the posters who say we have a decent WR core but lack depth, how is an injury prone WR going to help with that? Top WRs hardly ever reach the market or are traded. This happened to AC 2x. Coincidence or maybe the CS that see him up close decide he’s not worth the investment There is 0 doubt in my mind, Mac would’ve made the trade; why can’t you see things are different now?
you have the opportunity to add someone who has put up 1000 yards in five of his seven seasons in the league. Has scored more than seven touchdowns almost as many times. It would have cost a fifth round pick and $4 million on the cap. There is so little risk involved that it made complete perfect sense to make the move. You and others keep bringing up Maccagnan but the truth is if he made this move it would’ve been one of his best. Not a tall hurdle to clear but it’s undoubtedly a great trade for Cleveland and it would have been for us.
