ESPN.com - Time for Jets to show Revis the money

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  1. rohirrim665

    rohirrim665 Well-Known Member

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    Agreed, thats why they offered him an upgrade so to speak, but he turned it down. If he performs again like he did last year, then you give him the big big big bucks.
     
  2. jaywayne12

    jaywayne12 Well-Known Member

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    I follow how you might think this..although I believe I have explained it numerous times..but I follow. Will respond after my work day slows a bit!
     
  3. jaywayne12

    jaywayne12 Well-Known Member

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    Ok,

    Theres a difference to what I believe to be right and what the players perception is.

    I believe getting rid of Jones was a positive move for the club
    Players look at it as being totally disloyal considering, if anything, it was a lateral move at best. Getting rid of a player who may be on the downside..even though he led the team in rushing for a player who has been on the downside.

    I think getting rid of Jones was a good move because he looked to be breaking down late year/playoffs. He gave you nothing, from a receiver standpoint, out of the backfield.

    With that said, I understand how the possible snowball affect is taking over the minds of some of the players.

    Faneca: In a uncapped year, how would have it hurt the team keeping him on the roster another year. Even if he sat and schooled a rookie and was there just in case the rookie busted. Player perception..save money and kick out the old guy.

    Dearth/Feeley: Kicker and place kicker. Finally, the kicking position had become stable. What do the Jets do? They get rid of their sure snapper and pretty damn accurate kicker for a guy that has shown no consistency. Player perception..save money and kick out the old guy.

    I can go on and on but you know the players. Leon Washington. The players do no look at the fact that Leon declined a contract. They believe Leon was low balled and then got hurt. Then Leon got the boot. Player perception...They are low balling me too or not even talking to me in some cases.

    Im not agreeing with the players. At the same time, in the NFL, I understand exactly where they are coming from. Saying "fuck the players" as you did is a good way of taking a really good chemistry with some really good pick ups and throwing it all out the window if these guys are not in a common place mentally where they were last year.

    Maybe Im the one putting to much stock in that.

    What the Jet front office should have done is picked at least one guy..a guy who is up sooner than Revis and just signed him. Put the mind fucking back on Revis. They should have grabbed Mangold in the office and just signed him well before Revis had an issue.

    That was dumb on the front office side. MT screwed up and now, to tell Revis hold on and go back to Mangold wouldnt be smart...although I would still do it.

    By doing that, they could erase all the whispers you are hearing about how the Jets do not take care of their own...and you probably could have let Revis play out this year if he didnt agree with what you offered.

    Now the Jets are in a position to pay too much because they must sign someone...and they chose to put Revis first because they fucked up by not addressing the guys that are up next year first.

    Its the old I might not agree but I fully understand where they are coming from. Its not having your cake and eating it too. If it were that easy, there would be a right and a wrong here..and I guess we just disagree that this front office is poor when it comes to good PR.
     
  4. jaywayne12

    jaywayne12 Well-Known Member

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    I completely agree with this. Either it will play out this way or the Jets will overpay for Revis.

    Like I mentioned to JC in the post before this, MT screwed up by not taking care of a player who is due up this year. Then the player, Revis, who still has 3 years left in his contract would shut his trap.

    Those lingering potential free agents have only helped Revis in my opinion.

    Sad part is they would be easier to sign too. One of the few blunders by MT...but still a pretty big one.
     
  5. Br4d

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    The Jets had a history under Terry Br4dw4y of letting other teams set the market for their young players when the first free agent opportunity came around. That policy backfired on them with Kerry Jenkins, Laveranues Coles, Randy Thomas, John Hall, Chad Morton, Kareem McKenzie and even Lamont Jordan. All of those players would have been keepable with a bit of aggressive negotiation early on. Negotiations with all of them lingered well past the point that the Jets had the upper hand and they all got away because some other team was willing to give them an unmatchable deal.

    Right now the Jets are in a similar position with Nick Mangold, David Harris and shortly D'Brickashaw Ferguson. They are in a fairly tight spot with Braylon Edwards, Santonio Holmes and Antonio Cromartie. Darrelle Revis is just the kind of the distraction that could easily prevent the Jets from taking effective action on the people they need to be dealing with now to avoid having unmanageable offers drain the talent off of the roster again like it did between 2002 and 2005.

    It's possible that the economics of football in 2011 and 2012 will be such that the Jets don't need to worry about being picked apart by a cloud of piranhas in the free agent process in those years. I doubt it though. I think if the Jets don't have 2 people locked up long-term this offseason and then a couple more long-term next offseason that they're going to find themselves hanging in the wind in 2011 just like Br4dw4y's Jets were in the 2003 offseason.
     
  6. jaywayne12

    jaywayne12 Well-Known Member

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    I agree.

    I doubt very much that the NFL, after any deal is reached, will allow the Jets the luxury of not being picked apart to some extent. The NFL will use the poor economic environment (which is total bullshit..the NFL is still making a ton of money) and it will hurt teams in the Jets position. How "JET" is that. Finally you have a core and it will be difficult to keep some of the players because of the impending lockout and then agreement.

    The Revis situation, like you mentioned, is hurting the front offices ability to do the right thing and tie up the players you pointed out.

    In fact, I will take it a step further. If I were Harris, Mangold, and Dbrick, I wouldnt be very happy with Revis right now at all. Here are 3 guys that so far have honored their rookie contract and are now on hold because of Revis....who has more years left than all of them.

    Sadly, it looks like Revis will be dealt with first.
     

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