Eric on the Hot Seat??

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  1. KSJets

    KSJets New Member

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    Yes, that's what he means. My champanese is strong grasshoppa :up:
     
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    I agree Champ. I think there's a good chance he'll be with us for more than 2 years... just a hunch I have, especially if we make the playoffs this year. Of course, if we fall on our faces and he gets beat up pretty bad, it's back to the microphones...
     
  3. championjets69

    championjets69 2008/2009 TGG Darksider Award Winner

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    My fervent hope for you is when you reach my age some young so on & so forth calls you senile & then I wish I was their to see how you will feel. Hopefully that occurs when your wife & grandchildren & children are with you as well
     
  4. championjets69

    championjets69 2008/2009 TGG Darksider Award Winner

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    Well thanks however my concern is what I will call the Mangini control factor which can derail the entire process. I am sure that EM did not want somebody of BF statue on his team & now he has to do a 180 to accommodate him. The BF acquirement was done directly on the orders of Woody & EM had zero input into that decision. I would say at the least by week 1 BF is at the least the asst OC & most likely the OC & will be calling or changing almost play sent in by Shotty since BF has more O experience in one pinky then Shotty has in his 2 arms & legs
     
  5. NDmick

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    Or NE could just have the better team.

    Gaining a rapport with your WR takes more time than a few weeks. By the Bye week a good foundation will be there.
     
  6. NDmick

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    I wouldn't say a 180 accomodate Favre, but adjustments were made. The CS has said they'll let him be instinctive rather than trying to go directly off the playbook at times. Mangini has to like Favre, considering that Mangini has said that its rare for him to just to walk up to a player and be comfortable shooting the shit with him. Farve is that kind of guy which makes the transition smoother. He also has 30 plays locked in his head already, and if QBs have said if you have 10 good ones that work great you can use them more than once. I don't see week 1 being more of a problem than a building block. No one on that Miami roster scares me except for Ricky Williams and maybe Pennington. That line and defense is still pretty bad. Progress is the key in week 1, and NE + SD are real tests. It should be fun.
     
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    championjets69 2008/2009 TGG Darksider Award Winner

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    I am sure that Woody actually the only person that counts feels now that he has the team that can thrash NE & expects them to do that in week 2
     
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    I fully expect us to beat the Pats in week # 2. Its time for us to finally beat them in our house. And as far as Mangini goes, at this point, who cares. Focus on the NOW
     
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    Trust me if you are addressing me I am foscusing on the NOW but you must always look ahead as well
     
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    Nah I do not think so when BF says he wants to play longer & EM denies his request
     
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    I did not know that Belly handled BF. When & where did that occur. Basically what you posted & what I posted is more/less the same. I disagree however when BF wanted more snaps & EM said no that to me is a reda flag & turning his back on BF is another red flag IMHO. As for VG he was drafted to knock down QBs & that is exactly what Duke was saying & is exactly how EM is not using him. Come week 2 & TB can still sit back there & spell Mississippi back & forth before releasing the ball there will be a hue & cry here about why VG was not used properly by EM
     
  12. KSJets

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    Congratulations champ, you've managed to post more exaggerated assumptions in this one thread in the past couple of hours than you have in the past couple of months combined.

    Why don't you go all out and say that by the end of the season Brett will be the HC/OC/QB of the NYJ.

    Just when I think you've said the dumbest shit possible, you come up with something even worse. Good job.
     
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    In a preseason game? I know that if BF does get hurt in that game because he plays for longer than normal then you're screaming that EM should have taken him out. Its preseason...Who cares.
     
  14. KSJets

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    Don't disagree with champ or you'll go on his spreadsheet :smile:
     
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    :rofl: good point.

    Just trying to reason with the man. Maybe tone down the thoughts to something less catastrophic.
     
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    Sorry you disagree with my views as usual. You will see as the season goes along whom is really running the O & it will not be the EM/Shotty combo
     
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    I agree with that slightly. If I'm the CS, I'm letting Favre do some playcalling with what he knows, but not right away - later in the season when he has a better grasp of the playbook. Can a Green Bay fan who followed him here tell us about Favre's 2 minute drill effectiveness.
     
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    I think BF has already mastered what he feels he needs in the CP NYJ P/book already
     
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    :lol: I think there are more vertical passing plays in the book these days. Funny name for it though.

    I actually think we can see Coles as a deep threat for the first time in his career. Only took 8 years.
     
  20. Denny

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    - The comment on Belly was the handling of EM when he was DC in NE not BF. Sorry for the confusion.

    - No flags are raised here only because Brett is a new arrival, older, maybe a little out of shape and prone to a quick injury. Talk about a circus. White glove treatment. Brett is a baller and of course he's gonna want more time. I think a coach should make that call and I think it's a good one. And I think turning from BF sends a messege to BF that he will let him work with the coordinators. Yes it seems dubious the way he walked away but with Mangini being the control freak he is you almost have to see it as a sign of immediate trust. Mangini can say no to Brett when he deems it's neccessary. He let Brett's opinion sway the call. So he says no to more reps but yes to moving the chains. They both came out of it smelling like roses. Call it lucky if you want.

    - You wont find me crying about poor usage of VG. Week 2 is going to be VG's 2nd pro game. Barely scratching a 3 year maturation process. Never mind VG sacking the QB. Even if Em lets VG pin his ears back the results could be short of dissapointing or worse and wasted time to boot. VG has an issue with getting locked up with blockers and he has to get over that. He has to develop technique. TB will get his completions and VG is not totally responsible for shutting down the NFL's best offense. He was late to camp and has to learn the system. Blame EM all you want but Jamie Dukes is not coaching the Jets. He has an opinion and that is that. When VG reaches his draft pick value in EM's system Jamie Dukes wont be able to take any credit for that and his opinion will be long forgotten.

    - It will be a team driven effort. If the NE offense has a big day you have to put the blame on the veterans for the most part. You have Ellis, $Pace$, BT, Bowens, Barton, Harris, $Jenkins& etc etc. VG may have been drafted to knock down the QB but Pace was purchased upfront to do the same. I personally think it's going to be a knock down drag em out type of game.

    - And if you feel what I post is more or less the same then what you post thats fine with me. I like comfortable dialouge. I mean we both can see what Brett wants but we differ at what he is willing to do about getting what he wants and what obsticles, if any, that confront him more or less. And we have different feelings on EM's capability or decision making as a coach. I tend to trust EM more than you do. IMHO. :smile:
     

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