Kyle Wilson is one of the better nickel corners in the league and do you even know what Mo Wilk is for in this system? He's meant to eat up blocks so our "pass rushing" linebackers can get to the QB but Calvin Pace has failed to win any one on ones and Wilk has STILL managed to get 3 sacks being double teamed, by the way Wilk was a fucking rookie, what did you expect 16 sacks?
last year, McKnight and Wilson were both considered BUSTS by the same SOJFs now glorifying the Mangini era.... the SOJF guidebook Whoever is currently a Jet is a bum Whoever is no longer a Jet is better
Another thing is we are looking at picks under Mangini 4-5 years into the league and we are looking at picks made under Rex 2-3 years into the league. I can see how coaches influence picks, but I don't believe Mangini was the one picking or Rex is picking. Mangini and Tanny probably saw we had a horrendous O line so they say we need O linemen. We then draft Brick and Mangold. Tanny and Rex saw we needed another corner and d linemen therefore we drafted Wilson and Wilkerson.
Mangini turned the ship around and Woody pushed Favre on him. When it didn't work he was done. Rex did a great job with Mangini's D year 1 and with a loaded team in year 2 made a nice run but the D has gone backwards 2 consecutive years. Woody is bringing in Ex Parcells staff to rebuild the team. The common thread is they both wont last with Woody.
I have a hard time saying rex is better than mangini or mangini is better than rex. NY media hated mangini I think mangini was a good fit in cleveland and they should not have fired him there. cleveland fans loved the team he put on the field even though it went 5-11. it was a hard nosed team that didnt quit. I, personally, enjoyed rooting for the mangini teams better, because I liked most of the players. I find myself mostly rooting for laundry these days (i like harris, mangold, revis, brick, keller and sanchez to some degree), but i really dislike some of the guys on this squad if you could combine rex and mangini, you would almost have a parcells clone. Everything that rex sucks at, mangini was good at. everything mangini sucked at, rex is good at l
You don't draft nicklebacks with 1st round picks. If he had been what they thought they wouldn't have needed to sign Cromartie to a long term deal.
Teams tend to decide what 'you do' on their own. The Eagles went out and signed a third starting wideout after trading for a second to cope with the rule changes. Three starting caliber corners. Don't think that this is a passing fad, it isn't. Cornerback just became one of the most important positions on the field, thanks to Goodell and the blue bloods. Rex saw through that a while ago, which is one of the reasons he is so interested in stacking the roster at CB.
When we had him starting while Revis held out he played very well and we didn't lose a game, Wilson played right corner in college his whole time there, do you know how hard it is to transition over to nickel when you never played it, of course your not going to look good, D. Rodgers-Cromartie looked terrible in the slot for the Eagles. Kyle hasn't got an opportunity to start at corner so we don't know if he was worth the pick but hes played very well as the nickel which is important. BTW he was drafted with the 29th pick so lets not act like we drafted him top 15 and he was meant to be an automatic starter.
please, stop your hideous trolling and hijacking of threads... and learn to splee nickel while you are at it
Mangini and Rex are one extreme to the other. Mangini was a strict taskmaster fining guys exorbitant amounts for being late to meetings. Ryan is easy going, say what you want, player's coach. This team sorely needs a coach somewhere in the middle who has the players respect but, keeps the team together. I think Sparano and hopefully Haley can go a long way to being the glue that keeps these guys on point.
I'd take Mangini on this staff because he knows Belicheats mode of operation, and always gives him a tough game. Hell, the only two teams to beat NE last year were the Jets and Browns.
First off: http://www.amazon.com/Take-Your-Eye-Off-Ball/dp/1600783910 This will help you understand how draft picks are made. The HC is one voice of many. Saying Mangini/Ryan made the picks is like saying Sanchez got the Jets to the AFCC. It gives you away right off the bat. Thomas Jones and Dwight Lowery....big deal...placeholders. Cromartie is a starter and Kyle Wilson has improved and is now a solid contributor. Greene and Conner are good players for the Jets. You go on to say that it's time for Rex to make some good picks. That statement alone discredits the entire topic.
Seriously? I forgot the Jets are a revolutionary team with no GM or scouts. How much do you actually pay attention? Because you obviously don't have a goddamn clue on this one. Why does nobody ask that question? Are you serious? The reasons behind that are well documented and have been explained by Ozzie Newsome himself. You seriously should know the answer...Jesus Christ, talk out your ass much?
Meh... Rex completely Signed off on Sanchez... That was his boy. You don't trade up and take a supposed face of your franchise, leader and QB without the Head Coach creaming in his pants.
As a reminder, that list also left off the Mangini Era's major fiasco in changing out Pete Kendall for the Clarke/Bender Total Disaster. As for Wilson, I thought he totally tailed off there at the end of this past season. Using a first round pick for him has yet to be shown to be a productive move.
I've always been a bigger fan of Mangini than most...... I think he really knows FOOTBALL. Mangini Studied and was groomed to be a Football coach since he was a teenager. Same with Rex. - As opposed to a Herm Edwards who was an aloof player who followed a path, coached some DB's entered the Black Coaches program and stepped in shit. While I think Rex and Mangini are both great Football minds, I'll take Rex's defense over Mangini's...... I also poo poo the idea's floating around here that the Head Coach doesn't draft or pick players - they Certainly have a huge influence and Mangini stuck to the choir boys to a fault while Rex might take risks to a fault... Mangini drafts a kid who Eats and Breathes football and Wrestles large animals but, lacks talent or size and Rex will go after the Uber talent, Moron with a shady history. So far I like Mangini's style of Player analysis and Rex's Defensive coaching and probably overall coaching style.
Pete Kendal and his agents are Douche bags... Oh year same agent for Revis!!!!! They pulled a load of crap off in getting Pete more money after he just signed a new deal..... That is why the normally quiet Mangini was OUT OF HIS MIND PISSED OFF!!!!
