You'd think that a player's union rep would understand that a 'verbal agreement' means absolutely nothing in a billion dollar industry.
Dude, your wasting your time at the risk of Carpal Tunnel Syndrome. Trying to appeal to some on this board, is tantamount to running head first into a brick wall. You have a better chance with that wall or playing Russian Roulette with a fully loaded semi-automatic. We could have hired an all world coaching staff, and some of the posters would call for their firing the very 1st loss. We could win 16 straight games, but there would be criticism about the coaching methods. We could win 10 straight SB's and in the 11th season fall in the 1st round or not make the playoffs and there'd be an issue. But alas that is NOT this franchise so... I understand that many of the posters as myself are LONG suffering Jets fans I've been a JETS fan over 30 years, so I sometimes understand the jump off the ledge mentality but some if it is just borderline MANIC. Any who, I choose to just sit back most times, read the posts, shake my head and log off laughing at the fence riding mentality of the vast majority of the posters on here, because I do remember most of the SAME posters lauding Mangini last year as MANGENIUS. Whatever. Good post by the way, probably one of the best in a while.
On one hand, there is the four corners of the contract, but once he felt they reneged on the verbal deal, he demanded out, and he continued to show up at camp to get paid as per that contract. On the other hand, there is such a thing as people's word being good, and relying on their word in good faith. In my business, many, many agreements are made verbally, and are subsequently reduced to writing at a later point in time. Going back on your word is not a good thing. If people cant trust your reputation for honoring your word and making good on verbal agreements, you have nothing.
Crennel will be gone after next year, a la Belichik in Cleveland. He has not built a defense and the Browns will drop back to 5-11 next season in that division and he'll be gone. Belichik had MUCH more success with the Browns than Crennel has had.
And what proof do we have of any verbal agreement other than the word of a player who has ended his tenure with 2 teams through the press and as a detriment in the locker room? I don't know what kind of business you are in, but I think that it would be a failing one of you were depending a million dollars due to a verbal agreement. There are agents representing these guys for a reason. Any agent who depends on a verbal agreement to get his commission is an idiot. The 'verbal agreement' story is a smelly bunch of nonsense.
The principles involved in honoring your word are the same whether the agreement is for $1M or $25,000. You dont get to change the rules of honor depending on the amount involved. Maybe you would, but I dont, and the people I deal with dont, either. His teamates liked him, and had good things to say about him (especially Brick and Mangold who said he helped them a lot). You're just buying into the pile of shit the FO wants you to believe. Kendall went on to have a decent season as a redskin. How is the NYJ LG doing? Pretty smelly, and getting your QBs injured by having an incompetent LG is a bunch of nonsense.
Look, right now we're dealing with a rookie HC, he's learning to coach like Revis is learning to cover NFL receivers or Clemens is learning to read defenses. We're going to have to expect growing pains to come along with him for a few years. Rebuilding a team takes more than one season and it comes with both ups and downs, especially with an inexperienced coaching staff. Look at Crennel with the Browns, it takes time to improve a team.
RULES OF HONOR?!?! What hell is this, feudal Japan? Show me proof of any verbal agreement, other than an angry offensive lineman with a bone to pick and an inability to HONOR the contract he signed, otherwise your entire argument on this subject is exactly what it appears to be: a bunch of hot wind.
The Redskins are averaging the same 3.8 YPC as the Jets with much better running backs behind their OL and a commitment to run the ball by the coaching staff. Kendall was well liked what does that have to do with taking an upfront bonus in a renegiotation the prior year and than trying to renigotate in the press to make another million after he took the upfront money the year before?
You missed the point. The Jets lost. They failed to find a substitute for kendall, and got their QB injured as a direct result of having a crappy LG. Kendall got his raise, got his trade, and seems a lot happier. The hot wind came from the Jets FO, who claimed they dont re-do deals as an explanation for jerking Kendall around, and then they went on to re-do Moore's deal. So, they lied about that too. They werent honest with what they told the fan base, just as the HC isnt honest when he discusses injuries with the fanbase. If you cant figure that out by now, you're hopeless.
Yes, Kendall got his raise a year after he got a bunch of guaranteed money he wasn't going to see on his original contract, and schills like you buy his weak story hook, line and sinker. You must be a veritable business tycoon.
You think he made it up? LMAO! You probably also believed that he was put in the rookie dorm by mistake.
Hey, can you give me next weeks Powerball numbers now? I'd really like to make a few large end purchases. Thanks. :up:
That was not a prediction without basis... Generally, HCs who fail to build anything resembling a defense fail to build consistently successful teams and don't last too long... See Marvin Lewis for an obvious example
Nah, I was giving you a hard time about that, but the rookie dorm thing was pretty bush league; almost as much as you thinking verbal agreements mean shit in high-dollar business. And almost as much as Kendall raking in restructure money and trying to hold the FO hostage the next season. It's idiocy to think any verbal agreement matters in this situation. Rules of honor, that's some funny stuff. Go get 'em, Mister Trump.
Over a couple of decades I have consummated many, many agreements in court that were not ever put on the record. There were many more that had circumstances that led to putting the agreement on the record. I have participated in hundreds and hundreds of stipulations that were honored without ever reducing them to writing. And in all of those situations, I was representing someone else's interests and dealing at arm's length. I've also caught many witnesses in untruthful testimony and inconsistent statements made under oath. I am familiar with people's propensity to lie. Maybe if you walked in those shoes, you'd understand what it means to keep your word when you agree to something. It's important, and there is nothing much more dishonorable than failing to keep your word. You dont have to be a millionaire or Trump to live by honorable principles the best you can.
