keller is a wuss and is only half of what a tightend should be. i think of the replay in the dulphins game where sanchez is intercepted near the end of the game and keller is running along side the guy and gives a pussy a$$ effort at trying to tackle the guy. totally pussed out on the play and wouldn't last on any team with effort like that play. total scrum!
Dustin Keller is pretty average, he's really not worthy of a contract more than 4 year 18 million type deal. He will likely ask for more so I don't see him being on the team. He's not much of a difference maker and he's pretty easily replaceable.
I don't know where to find all the stats to support what I'm about to throw out there so don't bite my head off Anyway I was looking at the stats for TE's and Keller was 9th/10th in most catagories and 6th in total recieveing yards by a TE. However when you look at his longest of the year hes like 18th tied with Matty Fucking Mulligan with 41. Keller's yac was 5.0 just a hair higher than Graham and Whitten(4.9/4.5) and way behind Gronk/Hernandez (7.4/6.8). I don't know how many of those catches were more than 20+yards at the point of reception for those guys. This year Keller seemed to have more 9-10 yd dumps offs across the middle than anything else; with no chance to turn it up field for extra yards. Sometimes it seemed like was caught by surprise but how much of that was a panicky Sanchez locking in on him. How much bad play calling and how much was just sorry play by Keller himself? Right now who knows exactly, but I can say that we are in a tough spot because we don't really have an accurate picture of what this guy could be offensively. Oh yea, he can't block for shit. Won't even argue that point.
I don't think he's a moron or anything, he sounds pretty well spoken in interviews. I just think he's a barely above average talent for the position. If he's willing to sign a deal south of $5 million per year I really wouldn't mind keeping him. However this team is better served finding an all around TE like Brandon Pettigrew and getting a cheaper option to fill the 2nd receiving TE position (even Cumberland can be that guy if he comes back 100%)
Someone earlier mentioned a good point -- if he's going to leave in a year anyway to FA, it might make sense to at least get something out of it, even if it's a 3rd (hopefully) or 4th. I doubt it's going to happen though because it's such a pivotal year with so many Jets personnel on the hot seat..between Rex, Sanchez, most of the staff, Tanny, and god knows how many players..I wonder how much they'd want to risk getting rid of Keller, Sanchez's biggest target.
1- No team is giving a #2 for Keller. Hell, even TE phenom Doug Jolly couldn't find a team dumb enough to fork over a #2. 2- As far as needing a 'pass catching TE', ALL teams need one, even ground and pound teams. I don't think Tanny wants to put his career on Cumberland coming off a torn Achilles tendon. Hell, most players NEVER fully come back from that injury. They won't trade Keller without first having another pass catching TE locked up, and I don't mean from the draft. 3- Blocking is a problem for Keller, especially in the run department. But, Keller releasing from the line will draw 2 defenders out of the box every time. That may help compensate for his lack of blocking to some extent. 4- My guess is Tanny will try to lock up Keller to a reasonable contract extension b4 the start of the year. Tanny can always trade Keller latter if need be.
1. Like I have been saying all along, TE blocking from the line is a bonus, not a requisite. Hell, what kind of blocker was Jay Novacek? True, Keller does not block well - that I agree - but blaming Keller because the OL can't block for shit is just plain wrong. Ok? Ask Emmitt Smith if he had such a hard time running the ball because Novacek couldn't block for shit. 2. That said, if Jets to intend to get a good TE that can block, it would be very wise to lock up Keller in the process too, and use them in double TE set, which allows maximum flexibility in play calling. Hell, Keller can flex from TE position if needs be. It's more or less about how you utilize the talent he has, not to expose the weakness he has. (That sounds like some OC I have come to know for a long time.) Say, since Keller is rather fast and athletic, using him in trap block from the backside in double TE set looks like a legitimate option. (For instance - for the record I have never seen the Jets offense pull this kind of stuff with Keller during any of Keller's tenure with the Jets.) 3. All these stuff can go out of the window if Keller is a greedy fuck. If he's asking for more than $3M/yr (with his dismal performances and disappearances) he can go take a hike. He can die in a fire for all I care.
In power run sets, don't we use Vlad the Impaler as an extra 350 pound blocking TE? Say what you want about Vlad, but dude can run ppl over.
you do realize he led the team in receptions, yardage, and targets while being second in tds right? the guy is not playing for peanuts. He is much better than most of you make him out to be. He may come back for less than the open market could get, but he won't be a jet free of charge.
The Raiders didn't need to find someone dumb enough to give up a second rounder because we gave up our first rounder for him (and a second rounder that we wisely used on a damned kicker).
Out of mediocre offense? Yeah. That tells a lot. Rather if he didn't disappear on a LONG fucking stretch, or had the ball hit in his helmet (just what the fuck is this moron thinking?) or DROP, Jets wouldn't be in this situation in the first place, no?
You are correct sir. I remember it was a high pick and tried to block out the fact we gave up a 1st for a skinny TE for one season. Only the Jets.
Or if santonio Holmes wasnt a prick, Wayne Hunter wasnt the worst OT in football, the defense didnt fold against Tebow, if schotty didnt call 68 pass plays against the giants, the list goes on. It wasnt all Kellers fault. If you think he dissapeared for long stretches what does that say about our receivers, who he constantly outshined?
if only he had played basketball at Purdue. He lost a step this year, probably tried to bulk up to be a better blocking force. Permission to trade.
^ Ok how did he lose a step, yet improve every single one of his numbers this year outside of TD's? I realize the guy isnt Rob Gronkowski, but you guys are making him out to be Doug Jolley for christs sake
If the organization truly still has faith in Sanchez, they won't trade Keller. It's obvious that Sanchez needs to be in a comfortable environment with consistent surroundings. Keller's been his only consistent offensive weapon since Sanchez got here, why give him another obstacle? He might not be the most talented tight end, but I think he's a damn good one, and one we know Sanchez trusts. I hope he remains a Jet for a while. Plus, he hasn't said a peep his whole career, unlike some other divas we've signed/traded for.
Keller is a good TE. not the best in the league but no where near the worst. I don't see the point in trading him unless we're getting a second for him (which we won't). Will just add another hole and there's no guarantee that we get a player who will even equal his production with the 3rd or 4th we'd get for him. Really not worth the risk.
The reasoning isnt that we will get someone better with that pick. It is that he will probably want a contract that will be overpaying for someone who really hasnt produced that much.
