We will have our answer after the 2010 draft, which contains much more talent than this year's did. If we save our picks/gain more picks, we will be in a great position to improve our depth across the board. If we continue to mortgage our future, then we are not headed in the right direction.
I think we also made some nice picks in the UDFA market... Potter at DE, Southerland at FB (after playing a year learning from Richardson), Cook at S, Westerman as DE/OLB and hopefully TJ Conley at P are all players that could have easily been drafted and may contribute straight away.
In most case, I find the attempt to grade a draft the day after the fact to be an example premature calculation. Historically, the future success of early round QB picks are among the most difficult to predict. I like Mark Sanchez and there is a lot to like about him as a prospect but that in itself is no assurance of his success. If he turns out to be a stud, then our overall grade for this draft will be high. I really liked the Shonn Greene pick but if we are intending to be a smash mouth, run first team, I have questions in my mind whether this was the right approach, particularly given our current needs at DE, WR, NT (depth/insurance) and elsewhere. As always, time will tell.
Your absolutely right. We just mortgaged our Future to get the latest Usc bum when the real Qb's are coming out next year. What a joke.
I can't believe A+ and A++ aren't options. This is so unlike past draft polls. Really must be a new era of Jets football.
With only 3 picks we better get a lot of bang out of our few bucks. I like the Sanchez move we really didnt give up much for it. Glad no future picks given up. We need to find some depth from FA or UDFA. I like Greene glad we got him think giving up 3 picks for him was kinda nuts though. The Guard he OL depth something we need and I trust Callinan because he was someone he had recruited while a coach there. I give Sanchez a B+ Im optimistically pessimistic about it or is it the reverse? Green a B Guard that I don't know the name of C. Good draft just not many picks again.
Mike Van Paaphorst beat out Carson Palmer at USC for the starting job when he was the most highly sought after High School prospect in the country. I get that you hate Sanchez but you haven't really given a reason why?
I don't like the fact that his own coach Pete Carrol said he was not ready and all Usc guys especially Qb's are system guys and that does not often translate well in the Nfl. He is also surrounded by some of the best talent in college Football that hides his flaws and the Pac 10 is a weak conference. His arm is not that strong and in the Meadowlands in Dec and Jan that makes a difference. I think he was a woody PSL pick. If the team wanted a Qb that bad we should have waited until next year when the talent is much better. He just reeks of Matt Leinart all over again. Once again I hope Im wrong on this one because he at least does seem to have the personalit to play in Ny.
So we finally get the "big-armed franchise" QB you've always wanted and you're still not happy? I thought you'd be thrilled. I'm no draft expert and I was lukewarm to going up for a QB this year too, but in the end Tannenbaum didn't give up much to do it, just like the Favre move except there we had to cut Chad. I have the same concerns as you about USC, as I mentioned before the draft, because you're basically playing on an NFL offense against Pac 10 defenses. What this tells me more than anything is that nobody thinks Clemens is any good. If the Jets did they wouldn't have gotten Favre, they wouldn't have tried for Cutler and they wouldn't have done this. You know they gave Mangini the choice of Clemens or Ratliff, there's no way they were going to let that be a deal-breaker, and he took Ratliff. But as a Jet fan, Sanchez is here now so let's hope it works. I wanted a big time WR, maybe over the summer we'll find one.
Carroll was testing him to make sure he was sure he was ready to leave. Sanchez has a stronger arm than Pennington PREinjury. And that is plenty of strength for the Meadowlands. Leinart is still a talented QB. John David booty wasn't considered a good pro-prospect, ever. So don't make the comparison to him, that's not fair. He isn't even in the conversation. He wasn't even loved at USC. Carson Palmer was/is one of the best QBs in the NFL. pre-injury he was top 3 with Manning and Brady.
Really the Sanchez deal and pick were not part of the problem with this draft. It was the fact that the Jets got just 2 players after that and invested a lot of value in a runningback despite having Thomas Jones and Leon Washington already on the roster while the depth at WR is laughable at this point. Sanchez would have been a top 10 pick next year. While the Jets might or might not have a pick in that range the cost of moving up if they didn't would have been a lot higher than a 2nd round pick and 3 guys only marginally capable of starting for them. Pete Carroll's outburst when Sanchez declared for the draft was based on ONE thing: how it affected Pete Carroll and the Trojans. Their next good QB prospect was a redshirt freshman last year and Carroll is now going to have to either accelerate his development and start him as a freshman, which is a huge no-no in his book, or alternately hand the job to somebody less capable and live with the bumps on that road. Sanchez was the best QB Carroll has had since Carson Palmer. He was planning to get another year out of him and maybe a national championship. Now he's back to sorting QB's a year early.
Don't you think that the large reason for him saying that he is not ready more due to the fact that he wanted to keep his quarterback? You know he is a college head coach, personally if it was me I'd say anything to try to be able to keep one of my best players trying for a championship. I don't see how Leinart and Sanchez is comparable, in Leinart his biggest knock was that he was too Hollywood and he was, Sanchez sound like he is lot more humble than that.
We will find out if Clemens is the real deal pretty quickly this year Because I think they will at least start him the first few games so Sanchez can work his way into the offense. If Clemens falters Sanchez will be in by the first Dolphin game on Oct 12th. I still think we might make a play for Boldin or Edwards if they start to become distractions in camp.
Carson Palmer is awesome. Chad Pre-injury was barely good enough for the meadowlands. Im not sold on Sanchez because I think he is a systems guy in a weak conference. I do agree Caroll might have had his own motives but after 16 starts Im not sure he is ready for the pros either. Hopefully we let him sit until October. Do you think Carson Palmer in college would have beat out Booty for the starting job at USC? I do and Sanchez did not do it. That is why him as a franchise Qb is suspect to me.
That trade up for a Rb that would have probably slipped to us was worse than the Sanchez deal to me with all the holes we have. Hopefully your right. If Sanchez is in the general vicinity of Palmer we got a steal. Im just not sold on him because of the Usc System. I think Palmer was the exception not the rule.
I like the Shonn Greene pick a lot, although I am not sold on the trade-up. We have had need for a power running aspect to the offensive backfield for years, it was an obvious need. I don't think the Jets felt Greene would fall from the second round, and I think that's why they were so aggressive trading up. After watching some of the videos on him, I can see why. There are no linebackers or safeties that shy away or are worn down from tackling TJ and Leon. The way this guy lowers his shoulder and drills into defenders, we will have a pretty healthy running game next season. I don't know how they plan on addressing the WR situation and i share your concern in that dept.
