Did we miss John Abe this season?

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  1. xjets2002x

    xjets2002x Active Member

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    Abraham was terrible. The fact that Jets fans will remember him as one that "got away" is a sad commentary on the observational abilities of this boards members.

    Consider...

    Abraham could never play linebacker. He was a one dimensional situational rusher as a rookie. Herm tried to make him a Derrick Thomas fifth rusher type and he couldn't handle the transition. He was immediately moved back to end.

    Aside from his contract year, Abraham only has two full healthy seasons under his belt. You can't rush the passer if you're not on the field. At 28 years old, guys who have had nagging injuries their entire careers do not suddenly become less prone to injury, so investing big money in guys like that is dangerous. Abraham HAS MISSED JUST UNDER A THIRD OF HIS CAREER DUE TO INJURIES.

    OVERRATED- Aside from one season, Abraham has never been the premiere pass rusher that many Jets fans valued him as. Last season he had seven games without a sack, including TWO 3 GAME STRETCHES WHERE HE HAD NO SACKS. Championship teams are not built on the backs of players whose greatest skill is their magical ability to disappear before your very eyes.

    LOOK AT THE NUMBERS- In 2003 nearly half his sacks came in one game, against the Eagles back up tackle, and several of them were coverage sacks.

    In 2004 Abraham had 7.5 sacks over the season's first 6 weeks. Over the next six weeks, Abraham had 2 sacks. 2 SACKS.

    In 2002, Abraham had only 5 sacks over the first 11 games before he got hot. This is not a Pro Bowl performance we're talking about.

    In 2001, Abraham had what I believe was his best season as a pro, with 12.5 sacks. His best game that year came against New Orleans, where he dominated Willie Roaf's backup for 3 sacks.

    He was a big tease who never really saw his full potential, and I think it's worked out for the best. Whether this new coaching staff could have done anything with him or not is debatable, but really, it's moot. Giving money to the unhealthy and inconsistent is a recipe for disaster.

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  2. Dinobot 2

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    Trolls start these threads.
     
  3. Salz

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    You guys are being to hard on the creator of this thread. He was simply asking if we missed John Abraham's pass rushing ability; the answer is a resounding yes. He didn't imply that the trade was bad or that he'd rather have Abraham over Mangold. We could use a pass rusher of Abraham's caliber next season. He wasn't overrated at all, by the way, just injured alot. A healthy version of Abraham would be great.
     
  4. jcjet

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    "A healthy version of Abraham would be great." is there such a thing?
     
  5. Dinobot 2

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    You need to be more familiar with him.
     
  6. KOWIE

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    i think the falcons defense missed him more. :rofl: :rofl2:
     
  7. A.C.E.S

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    No, I think the Falcons entire defense was overrated. I'm glad we don't got him.
     
  8. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    You're right, I doubt those issues even occurred to him. Wait until his next thread.
     
  9. deviljets7

    deviljets7 Well-Known Member

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    Did the Jets miss what a healthy Abraham can provide? Yes

    Were the Jets better off dealing him for a #1 (Mangold) and the financial flexibility that came with the move? HELL YES
     
  10. GreenHornet

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    You can't miss a guy who consumes cap and spends most of his time on the pine. To answer: NO.
     
  11. Greencoloredglasses

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    He would have been an unnecessary distraction. Good riddance.
     
  12. jets1960

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    I don't miss that little girl.
     
  13. Tony

    Tony Bipedal, Reformed

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    No, we DIDN'T miss Abe this year. Atlanta missed Abe this year.
     
  14. Jets81

    Jets81 Well-Known Member

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    Disagree.

    See: Chad Pennington
     
  15. The U

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    If he was healthy he would have certainly helped. He is one of the best pass rushers in the NFL (when healthy).
     
  16. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I would love it if those retarded Falcon trolls showed up again.
     
  17. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    not really seeing how he missed just as many games as he played in this year.
     
  18. IrishSteveZ

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    Heck no, I'd take Mangold over him any day. What a job by the front office.
     
  19. MSUJet85

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    No. (Filler)
     
  20. GreenMachine

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    Funny story..their 1 fan site has almost shut down...1 post every 5 days....:rofl:
     

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