Derek Carr Benched, Next Stop NY Jets??

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  1. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    You’re using the same argument for Darnold that the Wilson guys used when he was 5-2.

    There are QBs that carry teams. There are QBs that contribute to a teams success and then there’s guys along for the ride. Which do you believe Darnold is? They ran for 320 yards last week, clown shoes.
     
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  2. DetroitRed

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    What is the fascination with Carr? Mike White is as intriguing as almost anyone available. With these options, ride with what you got
     
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  3. IDFjet

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    Somehow its hard to put him in the "rookie who sat for a couple years" category ala Aaron Rodgers etc. Probably because he didn't show enough to be kept on the 53 in several cases.

    I guess he can be said to be a journeyman given his journey through teams and rosters. But like you say he's still a developing, lightly played guy.

    He has deficiencies in body strength and throwing on the run--two things he can work on in the off-season.

    It would be crazy to sign Carr and then have Carr lose the QB battle in 2023. And if they sign Carr before extending Mike, he's gonna walk.
     
  4. IIMeanDeanII

    IIMeanDeanII Well-Known Member

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    Body strength? That's a reach.

    Throwing on the run Isn't a needed skill to play professional QB.

    It's fine. Whatever we can reach at to discredit the kid I guess.

    I'll be supporting the fuck out of him the next two games and I hope he shows that he deserves a true shot.
     
  5. red75bronco

    red75bronco Well-Known Member

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    The stats at Minnie and Buffalo are way below average NFL QB stats. Those are raw stats. Chicago tilts his stats for three games. The safety literally had a play on a ball, when down like some shot him, Wilson ran untouched for a TD. The rest of the secondary will not be playing in NFL next year.
     
  6. DetroitRed

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    So what if the stats aren’t perfect in his first NFL games? He certainly can improve. Ask Geno. White is a better option than giving up picks for Carr and big money. Ask the Broncos. Why are the Raiders letting him go? Ok . Thank you.
     
  7. DetroitRed

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    The Ravens letting Lamar walk? Nope. Raiders are letting Carr go walk without a fight. All you need to know
     
  8. IDFjet

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    Geez you're ornery--I've been on the MW bandwagon since the get go bro. I'm not "discrediting" him--he can improve--sheesh
     
  9. Borat

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    I don't think Carr will demand 40 mil per year contract, no one will pay that. Most likely he will be cut and it will be 25-30 per year for two years, plus team option 3d year. How does that prevent us from drafting a young QB if we want? Yeah, he will eat up some CAP space, but it will not be a long term deal. This is not Russell Wilson contract we are talking about, we can still get a prospect in the draft this or next year, who can play in one-two years.

    Mike White looked better than the stats indicate based on the thorough tape review. I thought he had 3 out of 3 good games. Take a look for yourself below. And even with raw stats, over 3 games the passer rating is identical to Carr this season. Right now I want Carr as #1 option, but if White can put two more impressive games, and dare I say a decent play-off outing, I would resign him, even with the small sample size. Yes I know, even journeyman QB is capable to string together a few good games. But we developed the guy for 3 years, he is 4 years younger than Carr, and if he leads us to the play-offs against the odds, while playing well, I would have a hard time moving on. We are not there yet though.

     
  10. dawinner127

    dawinner127 Well-Known Member

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    He’s literally been Matt Stafford for 8 years. How is that not good enough?
     
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    If it is a choice between Carr and Mike White, I'd go with Carr no matter how White performs in the next two games. Even with the eyeliner.
     
  12. HomeoftheJets

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    Unless White takes us to the Super Bowl or something, we can't go into next year with him and no other decent starter for the simple reason that he can't stay healthy. We can talk until we're blue in the face about how good he is, but none of that matters if he's missing half the games.
     
  13. NYJetsO12

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    People on here think The Bills poster is right ...just keep drafting for your franchise QB Jets (btw we have a beast in Josh Allen and you guys still suck..ha)

    We already have our draft high pick>>>Zach Wilson . He's an under construction developmental investment ..and now we should get another newbie?? Really..oh yeah we just might get the next Brock Purdy ROFL

    THIS: Drafting a QB is not smart at this stage in the Jets re build

    We plugged Mike White in instead of Flacco or Wilson and voila we look 100% better offensively ..FTHRM we plug in C Strevelor and things start happening

    Why is this just so hard to see???

    I am ready to Bet Joe Douglas knows the same and it HAS to be done..Book it : we are are Buying a Vet for this team

    High price vs low price could depend on MW over next 2 weeks
     
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  14. Br4d

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    Most likely a vet addition. Next year is year 5 of the Joe Douglas administration and the contract only runs 6 years.
     
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  15. BrooklynJetsFan

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    No clown, Darnold could have been a placeholder while we stacked even more picks and drafted quality depth. Stop bringing up Wilson he’s a complete bum. Not even on Darnold level.

    to discredit Mike White based on his current play is delusional thinking. He’s better and younger than Carr at this moment. There’s no reason he doesn’t get better in the system.
     
  16. dawinner127

    dawinner127 Well-Known Member

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    Okay this is crazy. Derek Carr has 8 years of data. Mike White has 7 games. Lets pump the breaks dude.

    I like Mike White and I hope he becomes the guy, but we gotta chill.
     
  17. BrooklynJetsFan

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    It’s maybe good enough. But we already have an efficient passer we can groom into a similar role, and without breaking the bank.
     
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  18. BrooklynJetsFan

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    He’s thrown for 300yds twice this season with Davante Adams as his #1.

    LOL. Mike White did that in 2 of the 3 games he played.

    Again, you guys keep ignoring basic stats.

    Carr is washed, and that’s why their not paying him that additional $120m.
     
  19. BrooklynJetsFan

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    Are you serious?!!! Below average. How?!!

    two 300 yd games, and another 268yd game. with essential one fluke INT and another last minute INT, cold turkey into the middle of the fire. He’s been highly efficient as passer under a large number of attempts.

    Derek Carr only has two barely 300yd games all season. that’s in 15 games. come on.

    If Mike white is below Average, Carr is terrible lol.
     
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  20. dawinner127

    dawinner127 Well-Known Member

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    They aren't going to pay him 120 million because it's an insane contract and everyone knows it. He's right in the middle of the pack of QBs. He can win you games when needed or he can be a passenger here on a way better roster than what LV has provided for 8 years.

    You keep telling the people who would entertain Carr that they are ignoring basic stats, but look in the mirror man. Mike White has played 7 games and finished less than half of them without injury or coming out. Mike White has 7 games of data. Carr has eight years of play that is equivalent to Staffords first eight. In one of two years where Derek Carr had the 20th ranked defense they went 12-4, he was top 3 in MVP voting, and went to the playoffs. Those are facts. Imagine what he would do with our roster?

    If you say you wouldn't want a Stafford like QB you are lying to yourself and we are having this discussion for no reason. In no way shape or form is Mike White better than Derek Carr. Can he be? Maybe? Are JD and Saleh really going to hitch their future to a guy who can't even finish half of his starts? Probably not. I've posted multiple times that I want White to be the guy and I hope he succeeds. I would love to have a QB room of MW and Minshew next year where we can spend our money elsewhere to improve the roster. Just to make this clear -- I would never trade for Derek Carr. Ever.
     

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