You cannot tell me Mims isn’t a starter in this league. I’ve seen enough of his playmaking ability. He pretty carried 5 guys for 15 yards in preseason. Made tough catches. Mims doesn’t drop that Elijah Moore deep ball. Coaching staff needs to figure it out.
What do we know: 1. Mims is physically talented 2. Mims is low on the depth chart 3. There have been comments by Saleh and Davis around Mims needing to know the playbook Certainly seems like someone doesn’t know the playbook very well. To be fair, it’s not as simple as just knowing a single route on a given play. There pre-snap and post-snap reads that WR’s need to make, signal, and adjust to. That said, it’s not often that you hear about a player having trouble with the playbook. I believe that he doesn’t know everything that’s expected of him regarding the playbook, and I also believe the perception is that it’s due to a lack of effort on his part. If it were an issue pertaining to some type of learning disability then Saleh and Davis wouldn’t have made the comments that they did. And yea, I wish they’d find ways to get him on the field. The problem is the message it sends to the players and coaches on both your team and your opponents. For the Jets, it’s “you don’t need to buy into our system and expectations, we’ll play you anyway”. The message it sends to opponents is “oh Mims is in, must be a go route”. The player and the coaches need to find a way to make it work. I really don’t want to watch Mims have a good career with a different team.
I think you missed like 5 pages of this thread discussing why he isn't on the field. A hint, it has nothing to do with talent
If no one else has said that Mims is an idiot, I'll say it. Bless his heart. A couple weeks ago, someone (I'm really sorry I forget, because it was a great piece) linked a long article about the WR's responsibility in this offensive system. It's not rocket science, but it's not drawings in the dirt either. There are a bunch of reads a WR is making pre-snap and based on where defenders move on the snap. Forgive my ignorant verbiage, but it was shit like, "Two yards, stutter, break to slant -- if the Mike pops to support run, drag behind. if Mike flares to cover short middle zone, break deep. If Mike settles, stop and find space in seam," etc., etc. The WR has these responsibilities for pretty much every play and formation. Not to mention processing audible calls, etc. Because of some combination of a lack of explosiveness and his inability to learn the system, Mims isn't starting. And because he's not starting, his learning responsibilities greatly increase. As Salah (or maybe Lafleur) said, since he's not starting, it's now incumbent upon him to learn all the formations and breaks for ALL the WR positions. Such is the life of a back-up WR. This is a LOT of information. Clearly not Mims' strong suit. People think because Mims is an athletic body, you have to just throw him out there. smh. Those days are over. You have to be a good learner to play in the NFL in 2021. Mims is NOT a good learner. Hopefully he can overcome this through hard work. Time will tell.
I posted it. Link below for reference: https://jetsxfactor.com/2021/09/15/denzel-mims-new-york-jets-depth-chart/
I think Saleh has already pegged Davis, Cole, & Crowder as the big 3. Moore, Mims, Berrios are bench. I guess we'll know more tomorrow!
I love Gomer! Well, they could sit Mims for one of the Smiths. I know there's a lot of chatter about Mims not know the routes and therefore can't see the field. But LeFleur DID have Mims on the sidelines last week, so he has to have SOME value there. What Saleh said about all the early 3 and outs made sense.....no one needed a rest, so no BUs had to come in.
The reason Mims sat may have more to do with all the 3 and outs, as per Saleh. If the starters don't need a breather, there's no reason to send in the subs. But they DID have Mims dressed and on the sidelines (probably due to lack of bodies) but if they have zero faith in him, he wouldn't of even traveled with the team. With Cole and Crowder back, I still think we see Mims on the sidelines for the same reason he was there opening day. He knows SOME routes pretty well, and he's talented. If Mims goes in, that limits what plays LeFluer can call, but so be it. I'd rather have our most talented back up WR out there running limited routes, than a lesser WR out there who knows a few more pages of the PB.
Here you go. Yes it does, but you don't get stability from poor coaching and not putting your players in a position to succeed. I have loved the Saleh hiring up until this point, and still like him. I hope that he realizes his stance with Mims is dumb, changes it, learns and becomes the HC we all want him to. If not, I'm not interested in gving him 4 years like we did Todd Bowles, or 7 years (or however many) we gave Rex Ryan. Did that give us stability? NO Sent from my SM-G986U using Tapatalk
I think this is a bit of a misnomer though. If Mims was as dynamic of a talent as BJF thinks he is, he'd be getting more reps.
Why is his stance dumb? I truly don't understand this side of the argument. If the facts are true that Mims does not fully know the playbook, why would a coach play him? This dates back to pee wee football. If I didn't know the plays, I wasn't playing on the field. It's pretty simple. Mims not knowing the play book hurts the offense as a whole and hurts Zach Wilson. Frankly, if this is all true and Saleh played him, I'd be pissed at Saleh for playing a player who has no fuckin clue what's he's doing
Playing receiver in the NFL is hard. That is why it usually takes a few years. Not many rookie receivers light it up.
Looks at starting team v Panthers... Mims isn't a starting WR in this league. As for Mims doesn't drop that deep ball, 1 it was DPI and 2 Mims wouldn't have got there. Fans need to figure it out.
They’d find a way to get him on the field, yes, but how can you play if you don’t know what you’re supposed to do?
The development of any offense player is directly tied to how he helps Zach develop. That’s the first priority, they are not going to risk Zaxh’s development just to get mims extra snaps.
That still does NOT say that!!!! There were conditions attached, and I said that I wasn't interested in giving him 4 years if he didn't meet those conditions. That doesn't mean 2 years. It could, but it also could mean three years, and I also said that I hoped that he would meet those conditions and that I like him overall. SMH
Everyone said that about Robby. Doesn’t have a full route tree, not smart enough, one trick pony. 1000yd season 1st time on another team. I’ve seen this story before.
