Dee Milliner ready for Raiders.

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  1. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    Exactly.
     
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  2. Jay Bizniss

    Jay Bizniss Well-Known Member

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    When will we find out??
     
  3. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    Probably Sunday.
     
  4. Jay Bizniss

    Jay Bizniss Well-Known Member

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    12:59 PM?
     
  5. BomberJet

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    Just because a 'football player' has been cleared to play doesn't mean he's ready to go all out. In other sports , like baseball, for example, if a player was hit in the shin off a foul ball/tipped bat, he shakes if off, and gets back in he box. Plain and simple, it's not a contact sport. He can get away with it.

    In football, with a high sprain, or whatever injury requires lengthy healing, that requires super quick reactionary movement to cut and lurch,
    that's risky. Yes, he may be cleared but, 100%? I'm not so sure. I'd rather have Mill at 100%.

    He should sit it out. Jets should win this game without him. Plus, with the secondary so thin, Jets are not in the luxury of taking chances. Millner could aggravate his injury and could lose him for a longer duration. If that happens, you'll be hearing me scream, "I told you so".
     
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  6. Jonathan_Vilma

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    This isn't a do or die playoff game. They're not going to medically clear a guy that has a chance at re injuring the initial injury. Thus meaning the guy should play if he's cleared to play.

    I can already see him being held out yet cleared to play at what about 95% then come back against the Packers looking slow, confused and getting torched. It's one thing if he's not ready but if he's ready precautions seem silly because he's going to struggle.
     
  7. JetLifeLo

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    Milliner looked like a true #1 corner in that colts game though. I know it was only a quick siting but still.. I think that rookie performance is in the past he'll only get better and better from here on.
     
  8. fansince90

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    I agree.
     
  9. TheJetLife

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    No, he is not ready for the Raiders.

    Manish Mehta ‏@MMehtaNYDN 1h
    Rex Ryan says Dee Milliner (high ankle sprain) is OUT for Week 1 vs Raiders. No surprise. #nyj

    (lol Manish)
     
  10. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    Dee millner is a dick?
     
  11. Umphpool

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    Damn was holding out hope :(
     
  12. TonyMaC

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    good, rest Dee.

    I wouldn't want to see him struggling out there because he's not totally back to normal and/or getting re-hurt.
     
  13. Don

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    I don't think he will be back for awhile.
     
  14. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I think he'll be back for week 2.
     
  15. Mean Green Machine

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    "Me and the Jets plan on making a big turn around this upcoming season"-Kyle Wilson

    See what i did there?
     
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  16. Falco21

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    LOL

    Well thank God for the OP and his sources. Sounds like he ran into Manish Mehta disguised as Dee Milliner.
     
  17. Altoona

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    It's really not a matter of playing with pain as it is about Milliner being able to both play effectively and avoiding the very real risk of aggravating his injury, which, in the case of trying to play with a high ankle sprain that is not sufficiently healed, a poor decision on both counts. Even a true shutdown corner with a high ankle sprain would be about as effective as playing a lineman at the position. When you then consider our lack of quality depth at the position and his importance/value over the course of the entire season schedule, I'd much rather have him miss a game or four and come back 100% than put him out there and risk compromising his effectiveness and ability to contribute to the team for most if not the rest of the season.

    Playing with pain is one thing and as long as a player isn't hurting his team by trying to play through it, he should make every effort to do so. A lineman playing through the pain of a broken hand (or the like) is not uncommon because in many cases, his effectiveness is not unduly diminished regardless of the level of pain. A QB with a broken hand on his throwing arm, however, regardless of his ability to play through the pain, would not be in the game time lineup, being in this case, a hypothetical example of why the principal issue, concern and question is about how the nature of any given injury impacts a player's effectiveness and not some irrelevant reflection on his toughness.

    I hope he'll be ready next week but with this type of injury, we shouldn't be at all surprised either (or hold it against him by unfairly impugning his toughness) if he remains out of the lineup for another two to three weeks.
     
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  18. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    yea thanks for the cool thread title but according to the official NFL injury report he hasn't praciced and he's out Sunday.
     
  19. Altoona

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    When it comes to high ankle sprains, everyone is different, as are the both the types and severity of the sprains themselves. There can be trauma to the lateral ligament, medial or both. With my sincere, all due respect and your personal experience aside, your opinion that Milliner would definitely be ready to play in two weeks based on your observation of how he was walking and "slightly limping around the store," is pretty groundless. Even if he was walking normally, it means absolutely nothing in terms of making a prognosis for when he'll be game ready. In order to make a qualified assessment to determine if a player with a injury like Milliner's is actually ready (or even close to ready) to return to action, there are numerous, specific evaluation exercises. For example, there are weight and non-weight bearing positional and rotational tests, area specific strength and range of motion tests and joint stability tests. Another good one and particularly reliable determinant to give a player like Milliner medical clearance to resume playing is the "Hop" test where the athlete/patient has to be able to vigorously hop up and down on the affected leg at least 15-20 times without a problem. As much as I wish it were so, unfortunately, as far as high ankle sprain recovery evaluations are concerned, the "walking around the mall test" doesn't really offer anything much in the way of real indicator of when he'll be back.
     
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  20. Barcs

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    Somebody might want to consider updating the thread title. He's been ruled out so it's a little bit misleading now.
     

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