Bro this is the 1st time i've ever seen you commentating after a game in-depth, despite not knowing the score after 3 quarters...I've never seen you get so defensive or reply so many times without the usual 1-liner... So forgive me if I think that's funny that you can actually say other words besides "Noodle arm QB:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: " It's different...
You're forgetting the other board I have 2000+ posts at...you know that other one where everyone hates you also.
says who- you? :rofl2: the homers like you can't see reality unless it agrees with your opinion. i really do not care.
You still haven't backed up any example where Chad played poorly this year. After two rotator cuff surgeries..... You AREN'T backing any of your thoughts up. Dude, you need to go idle.
i can't battle the chad cult-there's too many of them . they drag you down to their level and beat you on sheer idiotic experience. some of us actaully have real jobs. i've had enough tonite. you can play with them now.
I believe it's an issue of not being ignorant, stuborn and knowing when you were wrong. A sore loser is a sore loser.
Dino, how on earth did the mods ever let this troll get to 6,000 posts??? He pulls the same garbage at JetNation too. Sometimes he pastes the exact same post on both boards. He seriously needs to go. At least champ tries to back up his arguments. This guy is just a waste.
I'm amazed as well. He pulls the same shit at jetsconfidential.com where I usually post. But for some very bizarre reason, he seems to be on one of the admin's good sides so he's yet to be banned. What he does to us not only here, but over there is like torture. He technically doesn't break any of that board's rules, yet I haven't come across many posters who think he's over 6 years old...which makes it even sadder to find out tonight he's not too far from social security
I don't think I'm drinking any ones Kool aid but my own. I was very vocal in my negative opinions of Chad during the off season. I didn't think he could do the things he has done so far and I thought he would be a liability to this team. Once the season starts I can actually look and evaluate performance rather than speculate as we all did in the off season. Chad performance to date has been excellent. He clearly has shown poise, confidence and ability on the field. With this young team his example, desire and play is crucial to the Jets taking a step forward. You would be taken much more seriously if instead of just whacking away with a dull battle axe, you stepped back, took a breath and just evaluate. I know I joke around and get tiresome to people but in truth I really enjoy great debate and conversation about pro football in general and the Jets in particular. This kind of trolling really doesn't add to that experience.
Sorry Winny I did not see much poise or presence from CP during the 1st 3 qtrs of the NE game. Outside of the 2 unbelieveable plays made by the WRs CP was a NON factor. But & it is a BIG but sorry to say you also which really suprises me are not seeing CP is actually a LIABILITY to the team cause he can not throw deep allowing the other guys to stack the line against us. Yes he is the best we got right now cause our FO did not attempt to get a chucker in the off season but that is all CP is is a stop gap until we find a QB the other side fears. That is the way I see it
The FO did attempt to get a chucker in unfortunately Ramsey has proven he is a liability. You seem to agree with me that CP is the best we have at the moment. Since that is the reality and I accept his limitations, I hope as a fan that he has a terrific season and proves me wrong. So far he has been very solid, much better than anyone could have imagined and I believe he is helping the team to grow, install a new offense and he gives us the best chance to win at the same time. He isn't perfect by any means and clearly he had a very weak first half against NE. He showed a lot of guts and charachter in the second half and he made plays that put us in a position to tie the game. While all QB's are ultimately judged on the W & L, we are a team with many holes and are by no means one of the elite NFL teams. CP far from being one of the problems on this team right now is one of the solutions. It's a long season, there may well be plenty of games to pile on Chad, if he survives, for poor performance, the first two games he deserves praise for excellent performance.
Well maybe I am looking just to far ahead but for sure for us to be a elite team we will need a hard ball chucker not a lollipop delivery pitcher
Yeah Chad blows... what were we thinking, huh? Chad Throws 30-40 yd = 2 att 2 comp. Brady Throws 30-40 yd = 1 att 0 comp Throws 41+ yard = 2 att 0 comp Palmer Pass Thrown: 31-40 yds. 1 att 0 comp Manning, P Pass Thrown: 31-40 yds. 2 att 1 comp Rivers Pass Thrown: 31-40 yds. 1 att 1 comp Carr Pass Thrown: 31-40 yds. 1 att 1 comp Leftwich Hasn't even thrown a ball further than 30 yards McNair Pass Thrown: 31-40 yds. 1 att 0 comp Favre Pass Thrown: 31-40 yds. 2 att 1 comp Pass Thrown: 41+ yds. 3 att 0 comp Alright, someone - ANYONE please explain to me where this long ball deep throwing strong arm quarterback is that makes Chad look like freaking Tinkerbell. Please, point them the $#@! out to me. Stats obviously do not always tell the whole story, but I think the fact that out of the QB's I listed above, only 2 have attempted throws longer than Chad this far this season and have ZERO completions. What defense is fearing that, huh? Second of all, who is throwing the 30-40 yard passes better than Chad? Anyone? Carr & Rivers possibly who both have one att/comp there.
Ultimately I agree unless we are going to build a D that looks like the 85 Bears and get a running back that will make people think of a young Walter Payton.
I agree. We just lack a couple of key ingredients. We are still way better than I ever thought we could be at the start of January 2006. In January, Old Mother Hubbard couldn't even find her dog a bone in the cupboard; at least now, sombody has been shopping.
Interesting post. thanks The unbiased hardcore jets fan should probably realize that just because he can't throw 40 yard ropes doesn't mean he can't throw deep. He has excellent accuracy which does help him on the occassion he throws deep, but if you asking for a 30 yard out he' not your man. The question truly is who throws passes like that in this day and age. Of all the qb's to do well last week they've shown it is more important to have an accurate long ball instead of just have a rocket arm. The best part is that if he manages to stay healthy him and this offense will grow. I think the best our offense can show is far ahead of us. If we can get the running game going Chad P's play action skills are ridiculous....big If as it stand now though.
It is exactly because the D doesn't fear Chads arm that those passes have been open. If you take a look at Cincinatti for instance they are right up there in rushing and scoring pricesly because teams can't cut off the run or the short pass. The Jets on the other hand can't run the ball and are having trouble with WR screens and dumps because teams don't fear him. The Jets are 3rd in the league in passing and 13th in scoring. We also put up yards and points in effectively a blowout loss to NE. As much as you have to love the comeback, it is very different passing against a relaxed D allowing the ball to be cought in front and a D that is in a tight game looking to take away first downs as opposed to bending and not breaking. Coles and Cotch made plays that broke a bend not break D, hardly a reflection on great QB play beating the D. That said Chad played well against NE, he didn't play great against them as some of you are suggesting. Great would have been leading the Jets down field to scores when the game was still close.
Good rebuttal Winston, and I follow you for the most part. There obviously were some garbage yards involved in the New England loss, that is going to happen. Looking at these stats might be more interesting further into the season as teams match up down the road. But, I've been saying for a couple of years now that Chad is among the best in terms of completion rates on long passes. I think his accuracy is going to hold up to that over time and prove it true. I would hope that his ability to beat teams throwing down field will eventually make the running game more successful, but maybe it doesn't work that way. It seems to me that accuracy will make a defense fear a QB far more than a strong arm. I just have a very hard time buying into the strong arm QB philosophy, unless they exhibit the type of accuracy that Chad has shown. The stats on ESPN have changed since I posted that... Chad's throws and %: comp att yd % Pass Thrown: Behind line 7 15 46 46.7 Pass Thrown: 1-10 yds. 25 34 242 73.5 Pass Thrown: 11-20 yds. 10 15 210 66.7 Pass Thrown: 21-30 yds. 2 2 48 100.0 Pass Thrown: 31-40 yds. 2 3 79 66.7 Pass Thrown: 41+ yds. 0 1 0 0.0 The percentages on these all beat Brady's numbers pretty soundly, except the first one from behind the line. I guess I can see some of what you are saying about taking away the screens if this is happening. Too bad you cannot compare the incompletions to drops on the receiver or back.
