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Yes, unless they're rebuilding I suppose... or tanking for a high draft pick?

Yes, YES, for the love of god... YES. They will never live that down, and will never live down one of the ultimate chokes in sports history. They are the epitome of failure and I thank the football gods every morning for making it so.


I cannot comprehend how Jets fans have been waiting for a SB win for 40 years, and people are saying they'd take 10 years of a solid contender, over 1 year of winning it all.

I just cannot understand. It actually makes me angry inside, lol.

 

Well we haven't, which is why you can't identify with Jets fans at all.

They've both won 1 SB in that time period, but the Steelers have won more games. So they're the obvious choice, right? Not sure what you're asking here.

 

And its irrelevant to compare a lot the teams being mentioned in this thread. How about you compare teams that didn't win ONCE... lets say...

Bills fan, or Bucs fan over the past 20 years? 4 superbowls and not one ring? Or one superbowl and one ring? That's a better analogy for the original poll.

Edit: Obvious choice I believe is to be a Bucs fan... but again, looking at the poll results it just goes to show that a lot of Jets fans are masochists and would PREFER to not have a superbowl win.

 

That's 100% correct but I just happened to select only 4 teams off the top of my head to make the comparison with the Packers.

 

double post

 

yeah, pretty much

best offense in NFL history but choked in the end

 

The Pats were failures last year, and you'd be hard pressed to find people who don't think so. Hell, even their own fans were pissed off that they went all the way just to lose it in the most important game.

Every year, yes, 31 teams are failures, and one is not. We're 6 days from the next one that isn't.

Your Steelers and Colts example doesn't really fit into your argument though. If a team competes every year, and wins a single Super Bowl in that timeframe, it's hard for anyone to say that they didn't have a good run. If you told me right now that the Jets would make the playoffs 8 of the next 10 years, and win a Super Bowl in one of those years, I'd stop throwing things at my tv, even when they try to throw downfield on 3rd & 1.

As for Steelers vs. Rams, it's apples to oranges. They've both won a Super Bowl in the past decade. Even with St. Louis' recent history, the vast majority of their fans have felt the joy of a Lombardi Trophy. Considering all the miserable seasons we've felt as Jets fans, that one SB like the Rams would be a welcome change.

 

Give me a SB! But I want to get there by winning the division, beating the crap out of the fins, advancing in the playoffs by beating the Pats, and then finally making it to the big game and winning it against the GIANTS. But I would still be thrilled just to win it against whomever, but wouldn't it be nice......................

 

But that's not the question you asked in the OP. You suggested the alternative was being competitive every year but never making, let along winning the SB.

 

Thanks for the thoughtful reply. To answer your question, I was referring to the most total wins 92-07. Supposedly Packers have the most. (note also that it was from '92 on, not 9'0. Packers stunk in 90 and 91). I heard this somewhere when Favre "retired" and I confess I never checked it myself, but it does make sense to me. They only had one losing record in that stretch, made the playoffs 11 times (according to your stats) and won 12+ games maybe 1/3 of those seasons.

Are you asking me if I'd rather be a Patsies fan than a Pack fan? That's an easy one, I don't care what record :beer:

Seriously though, answering what I think you're really asking: no I still think I wouldn't. I guess it all comes back to full circle on the poll in this thread. Yeah in 15-20 years the Pack are 1-1 in superbowls and the Patsies are 3-2, but I guess above all else I'm glad to not have to revisit the deep dark depressing days of the late 1980s when the talk was that the Packers were doomed to become the Kansas City Royals of the NFL, essentially never being able to compete for the ring and doomed to be a glorified farm team because of finances, etc. The comparable time for the Patsies was the early 90s when I recall they were "this close" to going to St. Louis. I don't know how fans of other teams do it, but I'd find it hard to be enthusiastic a bout a team that essentially had to be bribed by the government not to leave town. Yes I would trade a a superbowl victory to avoid going through that for a few years. Conversely, I have really, really great memories of (for example) the 2003 Packers, of and of the 2007 Packers, both teams came out of nowhere during the season and finished looking liek they could go all the way, they took the divisional or NFC championship game all the way to OT, about as close as you can get to the scenario in this poll. No they didn't get there but I really, really enjoyed those seasons, losing a championship in OT did not "ruin" the whole seasons for me and made all the excitement of them moot, just because they fell short of what the 1996 and even 1997 squads did. It's just an honest difference of priorities, I guess.

 

I have to 100% disagree. But I guess that's why there is a poll. Success is winning a SB. I don't give a damn about merchandise, tickets and PSL sales... I care about my team winning. If a team doesn't win a SB, they have failed. You can try to find the silver lining, we've gotten good at that as Jets fans.

When you look back at history, or how to define a past season, you start by looking at the SB winner, not who had the best record. Bah. Just doesn't make sense that you'd prefer to not win a SB. I don't give a damn what the other 9 seasons were, a SB win is a SB win. I just want that to happen in my lifetime, and the thought of preferring 7 good seasons over one SB win? It boggles my mind.

 

I'm 33. At my age, answering this question, the answer is simple. The Rams. They won a Super Bowl, and I got to see it. As a Philly fan I'm still waiting.

The fact is, you can't use Indy or Pittsburgh to make your argument. I don't think you'll find one person on this board who would say that if you gave them the option to compete every year and win a Super Bowl in that span, that they wouldn't be happy to take it.

 

I had front row seats to that 1999 Rams Superbowl season, it was pathetic. The team was something like 5-0 and they still couldn't sell out a home game, the local Fox affiliate stepped up for the upteenth time in a row to boy out the tickets to avoid a blackout (my next door neighbor was the weekend anchor there so I heard all the gory details, they almost couldn't give them away). Then suddenly within a month every other car in town had Rams flags on them.

I lived a dozen miles from the TWA Dome at the time (and thought I'd be there permanently) and I still couldn't bring myself to be a Rams fan. I wouldn't be able to stand being surrounded by a city full of fakers. And between Mike Martz and Brenda Warner I came close to gagging a few times. I was at a Superbowl party but couldn't help it, I slipped and accidentally cheered for the Titans on a play or two (really pissing off the husband of one of my wife's friends, LOL).

 

I would take the one magical season. The plaoffs are about winning the Super Bowl. If you don't do that you just get a shittier draft pick. After that 10 years is up we can turn all those decent draft picks into a dynasty.

 

One great season over a decade of great seasons?

I chose the decade and hope that we finally win the SB in year eleven.

 

I'll take the one huge SB win any day of the week. It's all about going for it.

There could be no greater thrill for me. I'm not into "almost made it."

 

Rams. They won a SB and Philadelphia sucks.