Cro sounds like he would take less to come back here. Not only does he love NY and the Jets but also the new head coach. If we got him on a 1-2 year type of deal similar to what we got CJ2k (different position, different numbers) this year I'd be ecstatic. He would still gets paid fairly well for his age at his position and we can easily back out if his hip pops out again. It would also allow us to bring a legit younger option if available. Milliner could grow and get healthy under Cro and eventually replace him whether that be next year or the year after. And the notion we picked him 9th we have to start him is just stupid. You can't plan for a guy to start who's played 2 good games in 2 years. Let him learn and get healthy before completely destroying him. He's got a lot of potential and I'd hate for us to ruin it for him.
indeed he does have a lot to prove. 3rd year is a charm for good CB's ... we'll see what he can do hopefully he'll stay healthy
I hope so. We certainly need that. I do admit to being down on him all along. I'm hoping Bowles can really make a difference back there with him and Pryor. I'm hopeful for McDougle too
For all you Cro cock suckers, he sucked in 2013 and will most likely suck again in 2015. You can have him I don't want him he's too old/slow/hurt for me. Give me youth or give me death.
He had a great year in Arizona last yr w/ Bowles, I think as a solid #2 CB he's got a few productive seasons left in his belt (as long as he's healthy). 2013 he was asked to do too much as the #1 CB - he's not that guy anymore.
I'd welcome him back. I doubt he's demanding anything outrageous. One of McDougle and Milliner will either stink or get hurt or both next year. Hell with our luck they'll both suck and get hurt. Bring em on back.
It seems like Bowles is excellent at disguising his coverages and defenses in general. From what I saw of 'Zona especially before Mathieau got hurt was a lot of defensive backs moving around to play and cover different positions. I'm sorry folks but we're not going to get Cro and go throw $8 million into another corner as well. It seems as though it's going to be Cro and maybe a lower tier free agent or mid round pick and we'll have a big ol mosh pit of defensive backs where Antonio Allen, Kyle Wilson and Darrin Walls aren't the only players who play in games regardless of their performance like Rex did with them.
First Rex had enough talent on defense last year and signing Cro wouldn't have made one iota of difference. With Cro in 2014 : 4-12. Without Cro in 2014: we know. But he did make the Pro Bowl and they need one veteran CB. So if Cro doesn't price himself out of a job he's worth signing.
Young like the squad we had this year? Bullshit, stop being stubborn. Cromartie will come on the cheap and has very little downside, especially as a veteran.
We can't afford to have a swiss cheese secondary again. That should be the number one issue on free agency. And it would save up some needed draft picks.
major holes in your logic my man. you are advocating a big ol mosh pit of defensive backs, which is exactly what we had in 2014. Allen, Walls, Adams, Williams, Milliner, Pryor, Jarrett.....they took turns starting/getting benched as we searched desperately for answers in our secondary. i don't know how you can possibly think we stuck with the same starting DB's all season. we didn't. and Rex, like Bowles, also disguises coverages and utilizes multiple looks on D. folks, like it or not, Bowles and Rex are very similar in how they approach D, which is a good thing. They also both put an emphasis on good CB play. The question is, are we going to make the same mistake 2 years running by not improving the position? i suggest we put Bowles in the best position to succeed. Cro alone is not the answer. i wouldn't mind him on the cheap though. maybe 2 years, 7-8M combined, little guaranteed.
who exactly was the sufficient talent in our secondary? Landry was the only one. the rest weren't even close to mediocre. if you think any coach would've done fine with that unit, then you are just blinded by your own anti-Rex agenda.
They didn't take turns starting though and that's where the problem was. Walls, Wilson and Allen played until we 7 losses deep and then eliminated by Thanksgiving. You saw Adams for a flash in San Diego and Milliner when he was healthy. Outside of that he stuck to his players that were perpetually failing. Williams came in late and played well. McDougal and Milliner will be coming into camp healthy (knock on wood) so you're going to have three players who have shown flashes that barely played in 2014 coupled with a secondary coach by trade versus Rex who basically said go man your guy up and let's hope we get to the quarterback. This is why I hate the fact that people assume Rex and Bowles are such similar coaches just because they both coach a 3-4 defense. We don't really know what Bowles interaction with the offense is going to be but we have to wait and see. If he's as hands off as Rex we have a problem. People also fail to look at the disorganization of Rex as a head coach as a fatal flaw. I mentioned all the problems Rex coached teams had in common. It seems like Bowles preaches accountability and he appears to be much more organized. That's the number one goal of the head coach is to keep all of the players and staff in check. Like I said we don't know what we'll have in Bowles but just because he's defensive minded doesn't mean we're getting the same type of guy. Look at Brian Billick for years in Baltimore. Labeled as an offensive guy who coached teams with great defenses. He kept the staff in check and didn't favor one side of the ball despite the fact that he comes from offense.
i followed the CB situation very closely this season, as i was up in arms that we did nothing in the offseason. lets take a look at the first 9 games. Oak: Walls and Allen GB: Walls, Allen and Milliner all essentially splitting snaps Chi: Walls and Allen Det: Walls and Allen SD: Milliner and Adams Den: Adams and Walls (Walls came in once Milliner got hurt in Q1) NE: Walls with Adams/Allen splitting snaps Buf: Walls and Allen KC: Williams and Allen/Josh Thomas splitting snaps that's a whole lot of different combinations trying to find an answer. and that's not even mentioning Pryor giving way to Jarrett in some of those games at S. Allen even played some S and slot corner. how can you think we just stuck with the same guys game in and out? it's clear we did not. what else could we have done short of trading for a CB? Bowles plays a ton of man coverage, and is very aggressive at blitzing the QB. as for the corners you mentioned, flashes are great, but the fact is none of them have put it together for any consistent stretch. i said Bowles and Rex are very similar in how they approach the D, which is true. they both run a very aggressive 3-4, blitz a lot, disguise coverages and fronts, and rely on CB to play man. they do not believe in bend but don't break philosophies. that is not to say they will be similar head coaches however. just similar in how they approach D.
For those of you who are undervaluing Cromartie, the NFL Network ranked the top five corner backs in free agency (Revis is not a free agent yet) : 1. Antonio Cromartie - Cardinals 2. Byron Maxwell - Seahawks 3. Brandon Flowers - Chargers 4. Chris Culliver - 49ers 5. Kareem Jackson - Texans Link: http://now.nfl.com/play/0295d69a-d2a1-4cce-8035-0dda815851cf?id=0295d69a-d2a1-4cce-8035-0dda
Cro's downside is that he's over 30 and he's inconsistent. We have no idea what he'll give the Jets in 2015 but the odds are that it's a step down from last year and he wasn't even playing the #1 role last year in Arizona. If he's really cheap then he's probably a good pickup but I'm not going to be surprised if he steps down and the Jets are still looking for a 2nd CB next year as a result. That's what happens with most over 30 players who've been up and down recently.
One corner wasn't going to change things in 2014. Plenty of other teams did a much better job adjusting to injuries in the secondary than Rex did. Pittsburgh was signing guys off of Practice Squads like a lot of other teams were.
