Corey Davis done for the year

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  1. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    Yup. Davis better show up to camp ready cause the Jets can and probably will cut him easily after the season and he will have to show something to stay in the league
     
  2. NYJFOREVER

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    This started because of fantasy football and it drives me crazy. The number 1 is the guy who puts up flashy numbers. "Oh we need a real #1 WR!". It's hogwash.

    Moore thrives at the Z and can play in the slot. I think he'd be able to play the X but that was Davis' role until he got hurt. I'm expecting Cole and Mims to rotate at the X for the rest of the season while Moore plays the Z.
     
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  3. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    That used to be a battle I liked to fight but it wasn't worth it. What you need is a set of receivers who can play at a high level and whose skills compliment each other, there's no recognized threshold of skill that makes a guy a #1. Some players are so good that the QB locks into them all day and they get away with it. Is that a WR1? It's all subjective because it's a made up term.
     
  4. The_Darksider

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    Same here. I still kind of am stuck on the idea of a 6'3 guy with a lightning speed who goes over the middle and can win all the battles against defensive backs, but my mind has definitely shifted a bit. The reality is the days of the long vertical game are gone for the time being, the offensive focus has gone much more towards short plays with fast receivers who can do something with the ball after they catch it. Let them find open spaces, outrun the defense, find the seam and go. There aren't very many of those big guys anymore. Or at least, not to the level that I think our definition of number one receiver is/was.

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  5. CotcheryFan

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    Evans, Adams, Diggs, Nuk, Jefferson, and Hill are the current WR's I'd consider to be #1's. They put up the big numbers and can beat defenses in mutiple ways. They also open up the field for other skill position players even when they don't get the ball.

    Is it essential to have one? No, but it can't hurt.
     
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  6. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    What was the magic number where they went from #2 receiver to #1 receiver? There isn't one because it can't be quantified.
     
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    More like what comes to mind when I hear the name. It's subjective for sure.
     
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  8. The_Darksider

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    I hate to seem ignorant, but who is Nuk? Lol

    I'm hoping that's Cooper Kupp, because that guy is a monster. He is absolutely a number one receiver by any definition.

    But I think a lot of the way people look at number one receivers these days is due to fantasy stats. There are definitely number one receivers in fantasy football, in real life, maybe not so much.

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  9. NYJFOREVER

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    Nuk is DeAndre Hopkins.
     
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    Hopkins, who has been hurt this year.

    Fantasy definitely has a role in making the term popular, but I'd like to think it can be applicable to the real life game as well. Would anyone dispute the idea that Moss was a number 1 in his prime?

    Kupp has certainly played like a number 1 this year. Looks like a breakout season after one good and three so so years.
     
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    You're right. A true #1 requires a lot of double teams, moves safties around, and opens up the field. Those players actually exist in this league. Neither Davis or Moore really fit the role.
     
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    We need an outside WR that can cause havoc with Defensive schemes. The generally mentioned above Wr's do that.

    Look at Devante Adams. Can anyone really stop him when he and Rodgers decide that's where it's going?

    I like Davis, very good route runner and can hit every concept that this team needs on the outside. However, he's not going to scare anyone and that's why he got the contract he got.

    The NFL however is moving from these traditional gadget style players, ala Percy Harvin/tavon Austin. To Swiss army knives with great ceilings.

    With Elijah, I see him becoming our number one weapon, but utilised ANY WAY POSSIBLE! Look at deebo Samuel, cooper Kupp, tyreek hill. Players that move about and cause havoc. We're seeing this with sweeps, slot work, outside work and motions.

    Hey D, best look and see how you are going to stop us getting him the ball.

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    Mims is one step away from waiver wire…. Mims is not even close to talented as Davis. I predict he is not even on team next week year. Davis will be.


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    you are saying that only 6 WRs exist in the NFL? so basically according to you 26 teams in the NFL don't have a WR1.
    On top of that you are gonna tell me kupp isn't a WR1? antonio brown even as the 3 is better then evans but you list evans at 1
    a few others deonte johnson? adam thielan? deebo samuel?
    what about rookies that look liek 1s like waddle, chase, smith, and moore? any or all of those 4s could be considered 1s in a couple of years
    amari cooper? terry mclauren?

    I'd say there are probably 20ish WR1s in the NFL
     
  15. PennyandtheJets

    PennyandtheJets Well-Known Member

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    How is it any different than you posting your opinion from your device without your face/name appearing?

    Thanks for watching : )
     
  16. Br4d

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    The WR1's are the receivers where it doesn't matter what you do against them you can't stop them consistently. There are maybe 5 guys at that level in the NFL at any given time. Prototype would be Jerry Rice, Marvin Harrison, Calvin Johnson and Julio Jones in their primes.

    The 1a's are the guys who draw the main defensive effort and you can shut them down if you try hard enough but then other guys begin to open up. Prototypes would be Rod Smith, Antonio Freeman, Keyshawn Johnson and Desean Jackson in their primes.

    The 2's are the guys good enough to start at WR but clearly complementary guys who tend to get shut down when they draw heavy coverage. Prototypes would be Anthony Carter, Santana Moss, Victor Cruz and Corey Davis in their primes.
     
  17. Losmeister

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    zand i didnt watch that fanboy drivel
     
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  18. PennyandtheJets

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    No worries. Happy Holidays!
     
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    Big deal... Lose with Davis.. Lose without Davis.. Doesn't really matter if he's on the field or not.
     
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  20. GasedAndConfused

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    it really does though. we were up by 7 with back to back possessions coming up but nobody could get open without davis and moore. it wasn't good for zach he had nowhere to go with the ball most times
     
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