Chris Ivory or Johnson?

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  1. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

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    Is that accurate?

    16%...?
     
  2. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Something like 68 passing snaps out of 423 I believe, I'll have to look it up again for accuracy.

    Edit: Actually, it was 68 out of 443 passing attempts (15.3%). There were 79 total passing plays from under center, the remaining 11 plays either resulted in sacks or scrambles.

    Here it is, and before you dismiss it as a B/R article (I'm guilty of having done that a lot) take a look at the outstanding detailed analysis.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2087020-what-we-learned-from-jets-qb-geno-smiths-2013-season

    I don't agree with a lot of the conclusions made, but the data is there for you to draw your own conclusions.

    A link to the raw data
     
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  3. Jets Esq.

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    It was actually ranked #30 in run blocking, but that doesn't change my analysis; it was bottom-3 instead of bottom-1.

    The reason the Jets ranked #6 in rushing with the 30th run blocking o-line is because of "yards after contact." Chris Ivory is a beast, and he was #1 in average yards after contact.

    Having the #6 rushing attack does not necessarily mean you had the #6 pass blocking o-line. Run blocking is only credited with yards before contact; the run blocking does not get credit for Chris Ivory dragging half the defense with him into the end zone.

    I got my data from Pro Football Focus. They use advanced stats to "rank" teams.
    https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/01/13/2013-offensive-line-rankings/

    Scrolling down, you will see that the Jets' o-line "ranked" 15th in pass blocking, 30th in run blocking, and 25th in penalties, for an overall rank of 26th. If you thought the 2013 Jets' o-line did a good job run-blocking, think again.
     
  4. Footballgod214

    Footballgod214 Well-Known Member

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    Sometimes when I look at those rankings just a few yards or points separate the good teams from the bad ones. Teams are actually pretty close. I don't feel like copy/paste a bunch of charts but next time you see those ranking charts notice how close team totals are.
     
  5. The Waterboy

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    Foles, Rivers, Flacco, Peyton, Stafford, RG II and Pryor had a higher percentage of attempts coming from out of the shotgun. Smith was at 83% of his attempts out of the shotgun. These are PFF numbers which vary a little from the BR numbers but not by much.

    With the off season to work on his footwork and him getting a little more comfortable working from under center I think the percentage may go down a little but he had some decent company in the higher percentages and league average is about 75.1% so I don't think it is too much of an issue to worry about. Of course there are better football minds here than mine so I would welcome other viewpoints.

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  6. NYJETS4life24

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    I really think Ivory is underrated in the big play aspect. He broke off a good amount of big chunk runs last year. I don't know the numbers but it was fun actually being able to see our runningbacks get more then 5 yards a damn run. I swear the days of Jones and Green I would be esctatic if they even got a run over 10 yards. It was just a different feel last year and to have both Ivory and Johnson is tremendous. I truly believe that they have the oppurtunity to form the best rushing duo in the league. Throw in Powell (I love and respect his game) and the Jets have a triple headed monster.

    I really hope this is the season where we aren't feeling bad for the defense because there on the field for 45 minutes. I hope we can crack the top 15 offenses and that would make us an instant contender with a Rex Ryan Defense. I'm excited for this sesason and for Geno and the Jets to prove all the doubters wrong!
     
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