Hobbes can take care of himself Joe, he doesn't need you to protect him. And there is nothing wrong with injecting humor into any thread at any time. That's a difficult concept for you to wrap your puny skull around, since you try so hard and fail so often to do so. But that's not the point. The point isn't to have some grave solemn discussion all the time. The point is to avoid every goddamn thread turning into Stokes v. Barc, or Stokes v. Geno, or Stokes v. 1985, or Stokes v. soxx, etc. It's goddamn tiresome. Maybe that's the way you fucking losers rolled over at JI. Wonderful. Roll on back.
So it IS all about me, apparently I've really chapped your ass. Sorry to be such a burden to you. Ignore is a wonderful feature. _
Hey snarky-boy--what do you think about Vanderbilt's stat about the 96% of the football players testing positive for CTE? What do you think about the suicide rate among Air Traffic Controllers and Stock Brokers and Lawyers and Cops and Investment Bankers and Surgeons and Dentists and Marine Engineers and Vets and Urban Planners and Real Estate Brokers as opposed to NFL players? Or do you just take snarky potshots? _
Oh you're the passive aggressive type that doesn't "quote" posters with snarky comments hoping to fit them under the radar? No, tonite is miso glazed salmon and grilled baby bok choi. _
The stat is clearly inflated for the reason you mentioned. But I think it's very likely going to wind up being an unacceptably high percentage that test positive for CTE. The league's whitewash isn't going to help matters. I have no idea what the suicide rate is among those professions. Although if it were up to me, Lawyers and Urban Planners would off themselves at 100%. And, in case you were wondering, you are still a massive tool.
Solid response and I agree that most ex-NFL players probably DO have some form of CTE. But given that the profession involves banging your head against a wall, it shouldn't be surprising. Same with black lung in coal miners. Given how short professional careers are becoming, what with the money and injury factor, maybe we see less CTE than in years past, however the amount of trauma seems to be more forceful. You have no idea how devastating this is to me. Seriously. _
Btw, nice thread derail. Good solid commentary about CTE followed by snarky digs. Hypocrite and a fraud. _
Your argument is correct mostly because CTE is medically premature and as such is understudued and still not fully understood even by medical professionals; the prevalence argument is to combat the NFL's farcical rhetoric downplaying CTE's prevalence. A 2012 UCLA study of 5 living former players revealed CTE in brain scans. A 2012 BU study examined 33 former NFL players with CTE among 68 others and found that 1/3 had another dually diagnosed neurodegenerative disease. That study concluded a link between repetitive head trauma (not nexessarily concussions) and CTE. For too long the NFL has argued that there is no definitive link between concussions, "mini-conussions" or repetitive head trauma as experienced by linemen, and CTE, but were slowly discovering that the link is causal and inevitable. To argue against that is to argue that the NFL isn't a violent sport or that concussions aren't inevitable. As you well know, the NFL has, for years, paid for preferentially-rationalized and biased medical research to "prove" what they wisj about concussions as, over time, the NFL has built an empire atop its medical policies and legal positions that cause millions (if not tens of millions) of dollars in medical bills for former players that will age more rapidly and degenerate more rapidly than if they lived in a tub of acid. At this point, we need a study revealing the lack of presence of CTE amongst a random group of NFL players to negate the selective bias arguments posed by pro-brain damage anti-truthers such as Goodell. Until that happens, CTE must be considered part of the NFL retirement package. And players should receive benefits as such. Or at least owners should be barred from profiting and that money should be put into a massive health savings account for players. From 2009 (but sadly still relevant today): "As an antitrust-exempted franchise that generates billions of dollars annually, the NFL has a deep financial stake in this issue. However, although few would disagree with the notion that repeated head trauma is likely to have bad consequences, there is surprisingly little epidemiological data on the prevalence, both among the general public and in professional athletes, or the factors that could potentially increase the risk of CTE. Instead of denying culpability, the league should stop stonewalling and should aid comprehensive studies that help define the exact neurological risks of playing the sport and work with medical professionals to refine the sport so as to make it safer for professionals and amateurs alike." http://www.nature.com/neuro/journal/v12/n12/full/nn1209-1475.html
The NFL still currently denies this fact and fights to suppress information establishing a link. It's despicable. They show old clips on the NFL Network of players getting manhandled (and profit off it) but they aren't willing to acknowledge what actually occurred (or pay for the consequences suffered).
I don't think any rational person would dispute that. But I also think it unreasonable that current players or players in the league over the last 5 years can claim they undertook risks that they did not understand or assumed freely. And profit from handsomely. _
And people can testify to this, before this guy rolled around, there was never any Soxxx vs anyone topics, ever. There werent, none of the thread ever got derailed, I didnt even have time to carry out these pointless arguements. He is the one has brought all this personnel drama to the forum. Heck I never even payed attention to any specific posters, like I just went along with any of the conversations in the thread like it was just an everyday conversation with an anonymous person....this whole feud thing began when he showed up, he started handing out labels to people, labeling people "children", "trolls", etc....none of this really existed prior to 2013.
Ten years may just turn out to be generous. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/03/s...-collision-officials-say.html?ref=sports&_r=0
Awful story. This hurts just to read: His team started the season 3-0. On the day the team defeated Babylon, 9-7, Cutinella wrote on Twitter: “Best moment of my life.” Damn. _
I've always thought football should be about tackling, not hitting. the difference being you should b e trying to wrap up the ball carrier and bring him down, not simply barreling into them full speed. The game can be adjusted IMO.
Couldn't agree with you more, JB. Been saying this for years. Some equipment changes should be mandatory: No more facemasks. Nobody is going to lead with their head if it means losing teeth and breaking your nose. Shoulder pads can't be part of a unified body armor get up, but must be laced up around the neck and arms only. I'm sure there are many others that would help. As for the game itself, I think these guys are way too big. I'd cut roster sizes dramatically and limit substitutions. Faster, lighter, less armored guys running into each other will do a lot less damage. Chip Kelley would love it.
