Chiefs Player Murders GF then commits Suicide

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  1. AbdulSalam

    AbdulSalam New Member

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    Wrong again ! I am not assuming any such thing. You need to think before you type and you need to read and think about what other people are telling you. First of all - you accused me of being "insensitive" Remember??? Secondly, I am allowed to respond to you making such a dumb comment about me - which I did. I'm VERY SENSITIVE to Cassandra Perkins - the victim of this idiot's homicide and Cassandra's family. So before you start accusing me of being insensitive - think. You have absolutely no F'ng clue what you are talking about.

    He's a scumbag for killing Cassandra Perkins. If he hadn't killed himself he deserved to be arrested, tried for Murder, convicted and sentenced to life in jail or death. Its a very sad story for all the families. But that doesn't mean this guy is any less of a scumbag or a murderer.

    She came home from a concert he had an argument with her which escalated and he pulled a gun and shot her to death. You want to lessen the heinousness of that action by saying he had "mental health issues" - I reject your rationalization as absolute baloney and irrelevant. Obviously the guy had "anger management" issues - so do all domestic abusers and men who beat/abuse/kill their girlfriends. Not being able to control your temper is not an excuse for killing your girlfriend nor does it make you less of a scumbag.
     
  2. VanderbiltJets

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    1) You said I don't read what you write when more than half of what you write is reactionary, indirect, and nonsensical.
    2) Your entire first paragraph is reiteration, calm down man it's alright you're gonna pop a blood vessel.
    3) Second paragraph is a logical fallacy.
    4) Third paragraph
    I corrected your assertion that he reportedly has a history of violence against women (he doesn't, I pointed that out, either provide a link or stop repeating your incorrect self).
    It's plausible to assume that he has no history of violence outside of a few isolated incidents (fact: in psychological terms, punching an inanimate object, a window, is far different from violence against living beings) and that he shouldn't have reacted angrily as he did given the circumstances. If this anger was atypical and his violence against the girlfriend was the first incident of domestic violence between the two then the likely conclusion is that Mr. "Murderer" has a serious mental health issue. You can call that farfetch'ed but, seriously, everything I just wrote fits every fact/speculation involving this incident (however, if some reports are contradictory or new facts have arisen then please provide those because I'm not trying to be closed-minded here).
     
  3. VanderbiltJets

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    I don't buy the all races of people have the same sized brain crap but, alas, science/fact/all other forms of reputable evidence (including psychology and neuroscience) disagree.


    /sarcasm

    Correction: unless of course you meant "in this particular case, I don't buy it". If that's what you meant then I apologize.
     
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  4. displacedfan

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    You have some high expectations if you think these players are going be fine immediately. Everyone grieves differently, you can't just assume 53 players are gonna shrug it off and be fine.

    It's not about accomplishing anything. If the players/coaches don't feel comfortable and want to grieve for a day, you push the game back. They traveled and basically lived with this guy for a long time. The team is like a family.

    At least in my lifetime I don't remember this happening to an active player on the team the day before a game at the team's facility in front of coaches.
     
  5. VanderbiltJets

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    I obviously didn't say/imply this. To say that someone would actually CONDONE murder is terrible. That's very insensitive.
     
  6. Jetsetter

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    I ain't saying anything except this is a terrible story in a terrible year for KC.
     
  7. KWJetsFan

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    Sad story on so many levels.
     
  8. AbdulSalam

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    And 100% of what you write is idiotic malarky about "mental health issues" and assinine allegations that anybody who thinks negatively about a guy who blows his girlfriend's head off is "insensitive". Smarten up.

    STFU and worry about your own idiotic fabrication of "mental health issues" in your pathetic efforts to defend a murderer.


    Congratulations - this is one of the dumbest things you have posted in this thread. We have 2 dead people and you're pretending that somebody other than yourself cares about your dull-witted critiques about other people's message board comments. everybody hates that crap, give it a rest professor.



    Newsflash Dr. Freud: He killed his girlfriend and left her for dead. Ergo "Its plausible to assume" that he has about as severe a HISTORY OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE as possible - he just shot and killed his GF. Is that not domestically violent enough for you? What else exactly do you need him to do in order to demostrate domestic violence?

    please go away and please stop defending the murderer.
     
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  9. Harpua

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    Hey Guys, how about this, For one day in one thread, we ignore our own petty fighting and the semantics of things said and just respect the fact that some people lost thier lives and those near them and involved in the incident are suffering. This type of thread should not devlove into a bitch fest.

    Prayers for all those involved.
     
  10. AbdulSalam

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    they are not going to cancel a nfl game b/c of a personal tragedy. If you are saying they should delay the game until Monday the question is what does that achieve and what is the cost of doing that? Yes lots of people are emotionally distressed about this disaster, but delaying the game is not going to change what happened or make things any better. The better approach is to play the game and have a moment of silence and focus on using the game as a way to support victims of domestic violence, setting up a fund for this baby girl and supporting suicide prevention.
     
  11. VanderbiltJets

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    *asinine

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  12. Jetfanmack

    Jetfanmack haz chilens?

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    Relax, Abdul. You're the one accusing other people of thinking it's okay to kill people. Doesn't hurt to try to figure out WHY this happened.

    Obviously NOW he has a history of domestic violence (not that I'd call this domestic violence as much as simple homicide). If he had a history of domestic violence BEFORE this, then domestic violence is a part of it. It seems to have come out of nowhere. Usually wife beaters don't shoot people. That's not really that type of behavior.

    Was it premeditated like a cold-blooded murderer, like what Rae Carruth tried to do? It doesn't seem that way either.

    Mental health absolutely had something to do with this.

    The question is before, did he have a history of doing bad things? Might help explain WHY this happened.

    Doesn't make it right. Doesn't mean I'm defending it. Just trying to explain why who seemed like a good guy according to people would do something so horrific.

    It's a terrible tragedy. That's obvious.

    Your explanation is he's a scumbag. Other people may think he had mental health problems. Maybe it's one, maybe it's the other, maybe it's both in some capacity. No one knows for sure. The action is inexcusable, regardless the explanation.
     
  13. Jetfanmack

    Jetfanmack haz chilens?

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    I can't imagine someone you've spent so much time with suddenly shooting themselves in the head in front of you, especially when you throw the murder part in. Some people will handle it better than others. There's no easy answer.

    I won't blame the NFL for playing this game. I wouldn't have had a problem if they moved the game back a day either. I do think the game should be played this week, and there is definitely no easy answer.
     
  14. AbdulSalam

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    Correct there is no answer. Cancelling a game is not going to bring Cassandra back to life. Delaying the game is also not going to magically heal everybody. so what is the purpose in delaying the game? Its another domestic violence tragedy - the best thing that can be done is to try to use the game to focus attention on taking care of the victims - the families and nameless victims of domestic violence.
     
  15. JetRizing89

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    They should postpone the game till Tuesday and give the chiefs players a chance too cope with what happened

    Neither team is going anywhere so there are no playoff implications
     
  16. MikeSLTJ23

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    Couldn't have said it better. Insulting someone for calling a murderer a scumbag is stupid. I hate that people consider Belcher a victim here. None of this had to happen. No one's saying he was right in the head, but whether he was or not is irrelevant. He killed another human being......hence, scumbag.
     
  17. JetBlue

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    neither team is going anywhere so there is no playoff implications is why they should play the game. if the Chiefs are distracted and play like shit, it will have zero bearing on the playoffs or the season. in fact, we probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference between that and if they were trying hard.
     
  18. AbdulSalam

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    ^+1

    belcher killed a defenseless young woman who he'd been arguing w/b/c she dared attend a concert w/o his permission so he shot her multiple times, then instead of calling an ambulance or the police he sped off in his bentley and left her for dead bleeding in his home. belcher then offed himself in lieu of arrest and imprisonment. He made his choices, he died as a scumbag rather than face the music in a criminal proceeding and do the time for his crime, i feel sorry for his daughter whose mother he just murdered.

    btw: the chiefs decided to play the game. so hopefully we can stop whining about the players being too upset. They are professionals, this is their job, today is game day, lets not overly dramatize this like a nation of sissies.
     
  19. JetBlue

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    exactly. these are grown men who should be able to play a game despite some feelings of sadness. if they can't play it to their highest capacity, oh well.
     
  20. wildthing202

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    Draft implications? If KC wins they might get out of the 1 spot while a Panthers win could affect the Jets draft position.
     

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