I think he's the starter on this revamped, big money team as well...but he'll get pulled fast if he starts throwning floaters to the competition's secondary.
No he's not. They flipped a coin. There is no starter. In your mind maybe, but as far as the team is concerned...there is no starter. You can debate the pros and cons all you want (I'm over it), but until a starter is named, there is no starter.
Why would Chad be the de facto starter when KC was the official starter for the last 8 games of the season? Even when CP got a chance to play against NE and TEN due to KCs injury, he couldn't hold on to the job for the Kansas game.
Yep. The team announces there is an open competition for Qb, but the Chad Fans say Chad is already the starter. It is intensely funny, but I do wish this kind of nonsense was going on in some other team's fanbase.
Thats what makes us a laughable as fans... we have the Chad lovers and haters who go back and forth for 10 pages in a thread and recycle the same argument every time. I don't care who wins anymore, i just want the season to start so all of this pre-season bitching is over... but i know once a starter is named no one is going to be happy anyway. I can't wait for Chad and Kellen to be off the team so not one person here has a reason to bitch anymore. I'm rooting for Brett Ratliff all pre-season.... fuck everyone else.
The plan all along was that Clemens would come back when he was ready, which he was for the Kansas City game. Chad's play wasn't a factor in that, and he didn't play too badly in either game.
Woah woah woah..just because I say it's his job to lose, doesn't mean I'm a chad fan... Christ no. I HATE CHAD PENNINGTON. A lot has changed this offseason with our O-line. No QB would have been successful behind our oline, except maybe Mike Vick. With an Oline that can block, it seems no matter what Tangini say's Chad is the closet pick for starting job. Frankly I think our Coaches have no faith in Kellen.. just my opinion though.
Well, I am less then thrilled with Chad. Believe me, this is your last year buddy. We only kept you because of your high cap figure and we need someone to who knows the system to backup our new QB. Shutup and wave the towel and don't hurt you shoulder doing so.
Here's a word-for-word transcript on interviews with the 2 QBs...draw your own conclusions, but it seems like they have their heads on straight. I like both of these guys, let's hope one of them also emerges as a great leader this year: New York Jets QB Chad Pennington, 5.15 On the quarterback competition ? We?re out here working hard. If you were here in 2006, then you know what the deal is. It?s nothing new. Nothing is surprising. I?m excited to be here. I?m excited to have the opportunity to play football and lead this team. On if he?s surprised to still be in New York? No, not really. You know what? This is the place for me to be. I feel good about my situation and comfortable with how I?m approaching the situation and how I?m preparing so I can be a better quarterback everyday. On if he approached the Jets this offseason about a possible trade? Everyone knows there were discussions at the combine. After everything is said and done, this is the best place for me to be. Looking at the situation, I feel good about it. I feel really good about how I prepared this offseason. I really tried to take a look at some things, physically and mentally, to get better and to become a better quarterback so I can take new steps. On if he was hoping to be moved at the combine? Not necessarily. As a player, you always want to know where you stand. As long as you get a truthful answer, you can deal with it. Whether you agree or disagree, it doesn?t matter. That?s what you always look for as a player, just let me know where I stand and we?ll take it from there. On if he said ?This is my team? this morning? Anytime you step out on the field or in-between the white lines as a quarterback, that is your attitude. Your attitude is that you?re the leader. When you?re under center, you have to lead. You have to direct. You have to make sure things are going in the right direction. That never changes. On the Jets? offseason acquisitions? I?m excited with all of our new additions, both through free agency and the draft. We?re all excited to have the new guys here. It?s always a challenge to learn how to communicate and get to know the guys and make them feel welcome and comfortable, and then translate that to the field to where you can communicate and make sure you?re on the same page. On if it?s demeaning for a quarterback with as many wins as him to battle for a job? There?s always decisions made and, as a professional, you can agree or disagree, but it doesn?t really matter. It?s how you approach the situation and look at it as an opportunity. It?s another opportunity for me to be out on the field and produce and help us win. It?s easy to fall into that trap. I think that trap is very counterproductive and can really lead you in the wrong direction. On if he can handle being a backup quarterback? It?s just not in my thought process. I think any time you think about that, you?re already there. My thought process right now is to continue to come out here and do things that I need to do to get better and basically make our team better, make our offense better. I feel pretty good. I feel like I?ve been making strides physically and working on some things in the offseason to become a better physical quarterback, a better passer and thrower. Things are looking good. On the team?s stance that Clemens is the quarterback of the future? I think that coach is interested in one thing, and that?s winning, period. After you come off a 4-12 season, that?s all you can think about. That?s what?s going to dictate his decision. That?s what I think is going to dictate this organization, to do what?s best to win. Regardless of what I think or what anybody thinks, it boils down to decisions that (Eric Mangini) has to make as head coach and what direction they want to go in. On if there?s one specific aspect of his game that needs to improve to win the job? What I really tried to look at this offseason and study is how to be more consistent with down-the-field throws and doing those types of things. I?ve got the ability, and I?ve shown I?ve got the ability. It?s just being more consistent with that. Making good decisions, that?s what it?s about. When you have the chance to take advantage of an opportunity, whether it?s in the red zone or they tell you to take advantage of it. Other than that, you move the chains and keep the defense off the field and play good, solid, consistent football. On how much better he can player behind the new offensive line? When you?re improved all across the board, it helps everybody. This is such a team game that when everyone has improved, including yourself, you expect improvement as a team. That?s what we?re focused on coming out here every day, and taking a step, maybe a small step, each day. If they?re smaller steps, build on each other and lead to bigger goals and bigger accomplishments. New York Jets QB Kellen Clemens, 5.15 On how he has improved in the offseason to make himself a better quarterback? I went back and reviewed the taped from last year, fortunately I had some actual live bullets to look at and see the areas where I needed some improvement. One of those was footwork, continued accuracy, and every year you just have to continue to try to dig deeper and deeper into the playbook so you can become more and more a master of the system. On if competing with Chad is strange? Not at all, Chad?s a great guy, he?s an awesome competitor, and he?s a great quarterback. I think there?s a mutual respect between us. Were out here trying to get better and that?s going to get the team better and I know that?s what both he and I want. On what it means to know he will be protected well by the offensive line? Well, I credit Mr. Tannenbaum and Coach Mangini in the offseason. They went out and, speaking specifically to the front five, got two very good players in Alan Faneca and Damien Woody, guys that are really going to help. The addition of Coach Callahan is going to help as well, he is a fantastic coach. At this point, it?s our third practice, we?re all gelling and we?re learning about one another, things are definitely moving in a positive direction. On what he learned about himself last year as a starter? The main thing that I took away from it was the confidence that I could make the plays, I could make the throws, now going into this year you look for more consistency. On whether he has shown enough to be the quarterback of the future? I don?t know. Honestly, that?s the guys upstairs; they are gong to make that decision. I?m coming out here each day with my personal things to work on and the things we?re working on as a team and there are other decisions, that?s a little above my pay grade. On if the open competition has changed the relationship between him and Chad? Honestly, it really hasn?t changed our relationship. Everything that even happened throughout the course of last year, where I came in and he came back and I went back in, it?s never changed the dynamic of our relationship. It?s been a real positive I think for the team that were able to not let the issues that have come up between us and since there?s going be a tension that we get now, to be a distraction. On how he felt on his performance last year? I think that going back and looking at it, there were positives and there were negatives. There were things to build upon, some good plays, good throws, good games. But there are also things that I need to work on. The good news is that I was able to evaluate myself going against live bullets, as opposed to last offseason I had a couple scattered plays here and there so I think that critique is a lot more accurate this offseason than it was. On if he believes that he gives the team the best chance to win? I don?t think there is any lack of confidence on either side. Chad has obviously been there, done that, and he?s a good quarterback. I also have the confidence in myself that I can do it. It?s a great thing, we?re two very competitive guys, and this entire competition for as long as it goes is going to make both he and I better, which in turn, is going to make the Jets better. On how badly Clemens wants the job? I want to play. There is no question about this. We all want to play, that?s why were out here competing. But again, we try to keep the team?s best interests in mind and continue to improve. I keep going back to it, but I?m very fortunate to be competing with a like Chad, it makes what could potentially be a very hostile environment and a hostile relationship, awesome. On if he has ever put himself in Chad?s shoes? I have, I have put myself in his shoes. That only deepened my appreciation of how he has handled this situation. He?s a phenomenal guy.
It doesn't, but by virtue of his Syracuse education, Rich Cimini not only can write what the players say, but can aslo read their minds and heart to know what they think and feel as well. :wink:
Ok I can say Chad isn't the greatest quarterback and he more than likely isn't the answer at the qb position, but you HATE him? The guy played his heart out for the team and because of our past regime's ineptitude was dangled out on a stick and got the piss beat out of him.
I will be so disappointed if Chad is under center in week one. I don't think I can take another season of his arm.
I'm with you. It's Clemens or bust for me. I like Chad as a person, as a leader, as a teacher, but as a qb he's overcooked. I do have a bad feeling Chad will be starting the season though. Edit: I remember the second New England game when Chad came in I actually wanted Brad Smith to play the rest of the game.
That was a great read with the interview of two QB's. The same old stuff about Chad we have come to expect and respect about him, but Clemens answers were positive as well. I think the offseason and a new TC with a rebuilt line is going to really do wonders for him. Having more time in the pocket will help him see the game in slower motion than last year when they were being bum rushed nearly every down. If he has the goods we should see some good improvement from him this year.
Chad = Chicken Arm http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn...c.php?t=412247 Read the first comment after the article. I could not keep from laughing: Comments Pennington's days as Jets QB are over. wesmith2001Blog on Thu May 15, 2008 09:39 pm A quarterback that can not complete the 15 yard out to the opposite hash on a line can not play in todays NFL. Pennington has shown he has the heart of a lion but the arm of a chicken. It is too bad because he is a great young man. But he no longer has the arm strength to compete.
