Clearly I'm not just making stuff up and slinging shit for the sake of pissing people off. I don't insult you guys, I don't understand why you guys are doing it to me. The things I'm saying are perfectly reasonable but since you disagree it means I'm an idiot or have no idea what I'm talking about.
You just called a quarterback that put up huge numbers in the best conference in college football a Wildcat quarterback...again. That's not reasonable.
Lets use LSU for example: Explain to me the difference in seeing game tape against LSU on my computer where I'm actually studying a player versus watching that game live on ESPN. Do they edit it? Is my computer lying to me? Are there 2 Cam Newtons? Should I go to the stadium and get a feel for the city?
Poor acceleration I said. Yes it is if I said he's going to fail at QB. It's reasonable to say he can only succeed at the position down the road if a team caters the scheme to his abilities. No team in their right mind would draft him at #1 then start running the wildcat from day 1. However, in 2013 when Cam Newton is still on your roster maybe you start developing some type of spread offense where you can effectively use him as a QB.
Lets... Newton went 10 of 16 (62%) and didn't turn the ball over against LSU. He also ran for 217 yard and 2 TDs, but that doesn't really matter. Oh yea, his team also won that game...and every other game he started at Auburn. Yea, that's stupid. If you draft a fucking quarterback, you should always scheme to his abilities. Cam Newton is a special talent that you can build an offense around. That's pretty fucking reasonable.
What did he do wrong in the LSU game? Nothing. I don't give a damn how you watch the game. If you're going to knock a player, at least use a game that he struggled in. He carried Auburn against a very strong LSU defense.
I find it sad that you can't tell if a player is good or not while watching him live. It seems the only way to "study" players is through Youtube clips. Seriously, what did he do wrong in the LSU game? The offensive staff elected not to pass much because they had tons of success running the ball. Newton had one of the best quarterback scrambles of all-time in the that game. He completely destroyed Patrick Peterson on that run and you still claim he has poor acceleration.
Rockefella, I don't like posters insulting others, speaking in condescending terms, calling into question what one knows about the game, etc. I think I have been clear on that. There's never any excuse for it. We all see things differently, none of us are professionals and work for an NFL team, and we're just a bunch of passionate, opinionated fans. Differences of opinion make things interesting and can get us to look at things from a different perspective. Since I'm pretty new here, I don't know your history with other posters here or theirs with you, but I must say, however, that at least in this thread, I think you have pushed the envelope a bit with some of your comments, and taxed people's patience, if not good will. I have seen some posters make comments that go way over the edge, but generally, when someone makes a point that greatly deviates from what most others think and it is well supported with facts and reasoning, most people agree to disagree but accept the reasoning. I agree with some of the guys that you haven't really given sound reasons/rationale for your opinions, and have made some outlandish claims. I don't agree with their rudeness, but do with their strong disagreement. Basing one's judgement of a player on only 1-2 games is silly, if indeed that is all you've seen of Cam Newton. I think I missed the first game or two they played, but I saw every other game he played this year. His talent leapt off the screen. Yes, there are questions, like with any prospect, but I think the biggest questions deal with learning the complex play calls in the NFL. Let me hasten to add, however, that that is true with any QB coming into the NFL, not just Cam Newton. There's also adapting to taking snaps from under center and the various 3 and 5-step drops, getting one's footwork sound. There's learning to quickly read NFL defenses and making the progressions, and not locking onto one's intended target. I can only tell you from watching every game that Cam played and from watching both college and NFL football for over 45 years, that Cam Newton dominated in a way I have never seen any other college QB. The speed and acceleration (yes), the cutting ability, the strength, the accuracy, the athleticism is just amazing. The kid is a freak of nature. Playing against what probably are the best defenses in the country, he destroyed them all. Think about what he did against Alabama in their house alone. QBs that aren't poised, hungry and winners can't pull off those kind of comebacks. Think of the extreme pressure he was under. Here was a kid who never got much of a chance or experience at Florida, had played at a Jr. College the year before, now he was the starting QB in the best conference in college football, on national TV every week, his father's comments put him under a microscope and all kinds of pressure, and the kid stayed cool, calm and poised. Week in and out, he made amazing throws, runs, moves to avoid the rush. He truly seems to have every possible physical tool that one could look for in one's QB. He can make all the throws, has a strong arm that is usually accurate (I've seen him make some incredible throws, both standing still in the pocket and on the move), and can put good touch on the ball. Not only from a potential perspective, but from an actual production and winning perspective, I think he's a phenomenol prospect. I think he has a chance to revolutionize the QB position, something that people said Randall Cunningham or Michael Vick would do. I think Cam has more talent than both of them combined. IF his head is on straight (and I think it is), I think he can become a HOF QB. I think everyone here knows I don't like trading up often. I know you aren't gonna change your mind, but I can only tell you that if the Jets didn't have Sanchez, I'd be in favor of trading every single draft pick in both this draft and the 2012 draft to get Newton. I think he has that kind of potential.
With you so far.. This is complete bullshit. What the fuck? I said I was done discussing Newton but this is my final statement: I have bookmarked this thread and will come back to it in 2 years when Newton has shown he is complete garbase as an NFL quarterback. Quote this, make it your signature, frame it, wipe your ass with it.. I don't care. HE WILL NOT BE A FRANCHISE QUARTERBACK IN THE NFL.
