STOP this talk of drafting a OT at #4!!!!!! If we wouldn't pay a proven OT like McKenzie $3.5 million a year to stay in an offense he knew, why would we take a chance at playing a rookie $6 million a year? NO OL IS WORTH THAT MUCH MONEY!!!!!
whitehurst is probably the most inconsistent qb of the bunch very up and down imo and is known for holding all to the ball to long.
People keep talking about why Cutler is rising on the boards the way he is, and that somehow means he will be a bust. I don't get the logic. "I'll be quite honest with you ? not every team in the league has studied him yet," said Titans coach Jeff Fisher, who coached Cutler at the Senior Bowl. "They're going to look and see that he's got a lot of the intangibles that you need to play in this league." Scouts have raved about Cutler's arm strength, his mental toughness and the fact that he stuck with playing quarterback at Vanderbilt despite having many schools recruit him as a safety (Purdue and Indiana backed off at the last minute). While his size (6-foot-3, 223 pounds) suggests a pure pocket passer, Cutler has deceiving mobility. He played some option as a freshman and sophomore and faced nearly constant pressure as a junior and senior, so he knows how to move and throw under pressure.
So did DeWayne Robertson. Same excuse as Cutler, all the 'tools', triangle numbers, athleicism, explosion blah, blah, blah..... but played on a poor team. The overhyped draft picks have one thing in common, they all need excuses to explain their mediocre college careers. Jay Cutler was ranked 61st in passing last year in the NCAA.. He didn't crack the top ten in any passing category. DeWayne Robertson wasn't good enough to be selected to first team all conference in his last year at Kentucky. But Cutler could easily attract Tannenbaum and Mangini, just loaded with oodles of 'potential' and could project to be better in his new job than he was in his last. A perfect fit. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/sortables?stat=pass&sort=rat&season=3&year=2005&group=80
cutler had geat #s with a shitty team in a very tough Confrence . SEC easily a top 3 confrence. u cant compare him to boller who came from a coach who had a history of making qbs in college look better than they are.
Who was the last QB selected in the first round of 1983? Who was the first selected? Which one had a very cheap contract and made it to the HOF? Culter is not all that and neither is Vince or Matt. A draft pick is nothing more than a roll of the dice. I like the safe bet.
Cutler's height is 6027 which is short for starting QB in the NFL Whitehurst is 6042 which is average When you are trying to see over 6-6 and 6-8 offensive and defensive linemen that 1-1/2 inches does help.
Take AJ Hawk at #4. He's the surest pick in the draft, and it makes strongside linebacker a strength. Cutler barely receives a first round grade.
i would love to get AJ Hawk but no way we draft another 1st rd defensive player this year. especially since we have some spots on offense missing starters
Don't compare the two, because there is no comparison. If you take a look at Dwayne Jarrett and Steve Smith before Leinart worked with them you will see that he vastly improved their confidence and playmaking ability by making pin point throws. Leinart has been the leader to the most explosive college offense ever and has lead the best college football program the past three years. Comparing Jay Cutler who only has bullshit pre-draft hype and a terrible Senior Bowl appearance to a two time National Champion is terrible.
people tend to forget our qb adventure last year, Vinny,fieldler,and brook that work out great didnt it
i hear what your saying but. you could also leinart was in the right place at the right time he started for USC fresh of National Championship replacing carson palmer. majority of the pieces were in place when he got there. is that saying he is a bad qb hell no. i think he is the best qb in the draft his accuracy is amazing . but you know damn well playing for USC and playing for vanderbilt is like night and day in diffrence
I'm not one to buy into predraft hype and frankly I don't want Cutler unless we trade down 3-4 spots. But let me state why this guy is rising so high. For one, his college coaches and teammates raved about his toughness and leadership ability. He took the lack of talent around him in stride for 4 years and was considered the team's true leader. He never complained about the horrid protection he recieved from his O-line and continued to throw impressive balls all over the field. Secondly, his throwing release is out of this world. Most fans talk about his potent arm strength and such, but what really makes him attractive is how quickly the ball leaves his hand w/ such impressive velocity. That asset of his game could frusterate opposing defensive coordinators for a long time. Those 2 skills are what have sent him flying up the boards. When you combine quality leadership ability/toughness w/ an unheard of throwing release and excellemt arm strength, you have the makings of a very good QB prospect. Do his stats blow anyone away? Certainly not. But if you are looking at stats alone considering the overwhelming lack of talent around him, than perhaps you are not fit to evaluate college-to -pro athletes even on a "leisure" level. It is completely obvious that of all the positions on the football field, the one that needs the most help around them to truly succeed is the Quarterback position. Especially when considering a pocket style QB he doesnt really have the legs or athleticism to consistently abanadon the pocket and "create". When playing in the SEC a QB needs a quality OL (Vandy does not) WR's w/ speed(for the most part Vandy does not) and a running game(Vandy did not). So basically what you saw was teams gameplan against Cutler and Cutler alone. Take away his safety valves get defenders in his face, and punish him for 60 minutes. Most of the time these teams were successful, but nonetheless Cutler still completed some impressive throws. Therefore in this situation, his stats really need to have an asterik next to them. As for the people who insist upon us going OL in round 1: right now our offense has no identity. If we were to change our Ol situation and had say, the starting AFC pro bowl O-line, we'd STILL have no identity. Hence, taking a guy like Brick isn't gonna make our offense anymore efficient. Right now our skill positions are downright laughable. The only consistent threat we have is Coles. Basically we are completely rebuilding our O. And when doing so, if the resources are there, you always start w/ a QB. Now I'm not saying we should ignore the Ol situation. Quite the contrary. Our OL needs ALOT of work. But people are shunning the fact that we maybe able to afford a guy like Tom Ashworth in free agency to shore up the RT position, and that this draft has an awfully deep OL class for all of day 1. We will be able to get very solid O-linemen in rounds 2 and 3. So why not draft the center piece of our future in round 1, and THEN address the OL situation? Our defense has Jonathan Vilma to build around. Who will we build our offense around? Think about our current "lack of identity" before you answer that question. Will D'brickashaw Ferguson change that?
EXACTLY DING DING DING DING WE HAVE A WINNER THE 3-13 JETS ARE NOT GONNA DRAFT AN OFFENSIVE LINEMAN AT 4 THEY WOULD RATHER TRADE THE PICK OR PICK A SOMEONE LIKE AJ HAWK
according to some Bollinger is the next coming of Marino they must have been watching the game with beer goggles on this guy sucked and sucked big time ive seen better high school quaterbacks
If we select Cutler I realy hope we drop down a few spots. Just dropping down 3 or 4 spots could save us as much as $2 million a year on his contract.
great post i agree. we share the same point of view. in round 2 OT Marcus McNiel out of Auburn would be a great selection
Vs. Florida (49-42 Loss) 28-42, 361 yds. 4 TD 2 INT vs. Tennessee (Win, 28-24) 27-39 315 yds. 3 TD 0 INT Two huge games for Vandy against big time SEC programs, and Cutler was great in both.
