Jones will create another 3 million in dead money this year if we trade him. Not sure what kind of contract Edwards has but he had a cap value to Cleveland of 8 million last year. Not sure how we can pull it off. Obviously they will have to give him a new deal and Jones will still needs to be replaced with something so there is some depth. Just found it, he gets 4.55 million in this the last year of his current contract and then he is a FA so I'm sure any trade would require the Jets sign him to a new deal. http://www.rotoworld.com/Content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=3126&nc=0
With the success Tannenbaum has had in trading, I trust any move he makes for Edwards to be the right value.
Agreed. You need three, and with the other RB's on the roster, the Jets don't really need Jones. I am not a hater of Jones. I just think they need Edwards more than Jones.
Tannenbaum has an uncanny ability to get the guys he wants on the team...notice how we actually get a lot of guys we're interested in? If we're legit interested in Edwards I think he has a good shot to end up here. Doesn't hurt that we have some spare Mangini guys (Jones led the AFC in rushing but he's easily replaceable) Here's a scenario...let's say we trade Jones for Edwards and the Chiefs cut Larry Johnson. LJ has a bit of checkered past but he still ran for 4.5 ypc behind that KC offensive line and he won't be 30 til the end of the season. An offense with Edwards-Cotch-Keller as receiving threats and a rushing attack of Johnson-Greene-Washington would be unreal
forget about LJ, thats stupid, club house cancer and he is a bit washed, if we trade jones, shonn green becomes our immediate starter and splits carries with washington, with green prob getting more cuz of the short downs, tough yards and goal line. If you can make this trade without giving up more than jones and a third, than its a huge upgrade. Throwing brad smith in the deal is a fantastic idea, somebody mangini covets, but hasnt really shown anything more than a kordell stewert. People forget that braylon had 16 tds just two years ago. If ur gonna take a risk with sanchez, give him a big target to throw to and put glue traps on his hands... I agree with ace of spades that tanny does have an uncanny ability to get the guys he wants on the team, but from the browns perspective, I dont think this trade will happen. They seem to want more than he is worth right now and it has been like that since the draft. (see giants attempts) I would love the addition, miss jones but be all for the trade, but I am certianly not going to get bananas over a rumor,or even consider this a possibility until another stable report is posted from a credited source, until then its just hearsay.
Not a bad insurence policy if he comes cheap. If we pick up LJ i'm sure everyone will be whining that he's old and washed up but if the Pats picked him up they'd be brillient. LJ on the cheap is cool with me. After LW and SG who would we have left ?
I agree with you. Edwards reminds me of Plaxico a few years ago. Drafted high but was looking like a bust for a while. Until he shot himself in the leg, he was suddenly emerging as one of the best receivers in the league. Edwards turned Derek Anderson into a multi-multi-millionaire. He also doesn't come with half the baggage of a Plaxico.
You'd need another back as depth my friend. LJ is kinda on his last leg but i wouldn't toss the idea aside if he comes cheap and gets a few carries a game. As far as throwing in BS, why would you want to "throw in" more then you'd have to give up for this guy? They obviously want to move him and if you give up BS then the draft pick is off the table.
Are you suggesting that the GM should plan for no cap without worrying that there could be one? It's a possibility that there is no cap in '10 but there probably will be one from what I've read. That doesn't sound like a sound plan to me.
I don't think Larry Johnson commands big money, and wherever he'd go he'd probably be part of a stable of backs, not a 30 carries per game kind of guy anymore. All this is moot if KC decides not to cut him
Rumor has it that Edwards wants to be paid $10 million a year. His contract expires this after this year. We have to re-sign Washington, and we have another top 5 pick to pay in Sanchez. We also have to re-sign Mangold in '11. We cannot afford a contract like that.
I wouldn't sign LJ to a long term deal, I'd offer him a 1 year incentive laden deal to prove he's not a troublemaker, still has tread on his tires, etc. If he refuses it's not that big a deal, it was just a suggestion...if we want to run the ball a lot we need 3 RB's. I disliked that we carried 2 RB's and 4 kickers/punters at times last year. Chances are this trade doesn't happen tho
Current Estimated Cap Space: $12,529,440 If we cut Drew Coleman and cut/trade Brad Smith we'd add another million to that total. And I heard that Braylon wants 10 million a year but I don't think he's gonna get that from anybody, he'll likely get something like 7-8 million with incentives I'd imagine.
Yes, and we still have to re-sign Washington who will get somewhere in the 4-5 million/year range. We still have to sign our rookies, and Sanchez alone is goint to count for around $3.5 million towards the cap at least. So there's $7.5 million if we take the conservative end without considering Greene's contract which shouldn't be bad. Then you have to take into account that we have a probowl center who will need to be re-signed after this season.
