I'd even support trading a 1st for him provided he accepts a psychological counseling clause in his contract.
my thing is, putting talent aside, both these guys are questionable. Burress we should be able to get cheaper and on a mutally understood one year circumstanstial trial contract, if thats what youd call it. That way we arent betting the farm on a player whos gonna disrupt our team, at least not for long. That Marshall video showed me his yac ability, and it made me drool at the thought of him in green and white. i just think that Burress will compliment the team well and will be the cheaper and safer (less consequential) choice. Like ive said in other threads as well as other members and the Jets WR's and Jets staff, "Our guys can do it" so im gonna go with the safer choice, itd be nice but we dont NEED either.
Some one read this article!!! w ww.profootballtalk.com/2009/06/16/brandon-to-the-browns? if this is all its gunna take to get Brandon then we should almost easily be able to acquire him. :beer: ( sorry yur gunna havta fix the www and copy and paste the link cuz i cant post links yet)
I understand that but if we gave up a guy like Bryan Thomas or even Dwight Lowery ( Who IMO are alot better and have more potential to be a solid starter then Cribbs) and maybe a 1st and 4th( or possibly another receiver) for Marshall would be a huge pick up and wouldn't kill us. Also remember Denver still needs help on that defensive side of the ball.
That depends on how you look at it. In October 2006 a new law was signed that increased the mandatory minimum sentence for illegal possession of a loaded handgun to 3? years (as you noted, it's not the maximum sentence). On July 17, 2007, Mayor Bloomberg issued a statement where he said that "Now, if you are convicted, you will serve a minimum of 3? years behind bars ? no exceptions." http://www.nycrimecommission.org/guns-prison.pdf Thus, the issue is whether he will be charged with that crime, or whether they will let him off with lesser charges. The DA has all the leverage here - if he gets charged with carrying a loaded illegal handgun he's finished, since the case against him is open and shut. To my mind this is actually the biggest argument for signing him this year - he has to keep his nose clean during the season, or the DA will charge him with the weapons charge and he'll be off to state prison for 3? years. It's hard to imagine a stronger incentive to stay out of trouble.
So We dont want Plaxico Burress cuz he is a head case!!! But then turn around and look at acquiring another head case!!!! Marshall is bad news... he's got a big attitude problem
Lots of "real leaders" were more along the lines of "do it my way or get the hell out". Anyone from Lombardi to Patton had this type of attitude. Real leaders do not coddle and cave to whiners wanting more then they are due. If Marshall packed his bags and left Denver Ala Cutler he will most likely be gone unless the fines become too much for him. Then expect him to raise all kinds of hell at Camp.
on SI.com this morning ? Goodell has been thrown a curveball by the New York justice system. All along, obviously, he was waiting for Plaxico Burress to be sentenced for possession of an unlicensed handgun in New York City, and the discharge of said handgun. It was going to be open-and-shut, with some prison time and some probation, from all indications. But then New York dropped the ball and allowed the defense team to push the case back to 2010 -- at least 14 or 15 months after the offense occurred. That's a ridiculous, system-abusing trial decision that Mayor Michael Bloomberg and the powers who oversee the criminal justice system in the state should be railing against. I'm friendly with a judge in the New York area, and, prompted by my outrage of the continuance of the case in Monday's column, this judge, who asked that I not use his name, wrote me an e-mail sharing my wonderment over how this case was going to go more than a year without being heard. He said he was "disgusted with the way the defense dictated the timing of this case,'' and said Burress' possible employment should have nothing to do with when the case is heard. "If I based all my trial dates on a defendant's work schedule, we'd never have any trials,'' the judge wrote. "Why should Plaxico be different than any other working defendant? In fact, there are working defendants who can barely pay their bills. His case is not one requiring extensive discovery or pretrial motions. It's a straightforward gun-possession case. The case should be over, verdict and all, by Nov. 1.'' But the delay has put Goodell in a tough spot. He's on record as preferring to allow a first-time offender to have his case adjudicated before the league imposes discipline, but I asked league people about that Monday, and there was no assurance forthcoming that Goodell would wait for the case to be tried. That's why I think that whoever signs Burress will be looking at a four-, six- or eight-game suspension, and a certain NFL Players Association appeal on Burress' behalf. It may be that the team taking him on will have to pay dearly for Burress -- in salary, in public ridicule for aligning with a gun offender, and in distraction for having him around the team.
Yep. You can't deny that the team is better than when he left, but that might have more to do with Tannenbaum than Mangini. It had to, considering how much clout Tanny had with Woody in regards to sticking around and dealing with the coaching change. And for all of the jokes we hear about "Mangini guys", they really do form a solid core for the team. When the majority of your team is made up of hard working, team-oriented guys, you really can't expect to hear locker room issues. Most of the Coles quotes that people used to make it seem like he was a malcontent were either sarcastic or taken out of context because the writers wanted something to write about. That's pretty impressive.
Not taking anything away from Plax here....but Marshall is the better athlete, and his age and production dictates he would be the better choice for the Jets. Plax would cost nothing??...his agent is Drew Rosenhaus.....trust me, Plax will get paid. Marshall>>>Plax
Every argument depends on how you look at it. Another opinion on the Burress case, not a shocker there. There was another post below this in this same thread from SI.com this morning where Bloomberg says he is outraged by how the defense has dictated how long this case will take and is not happy that it will extend out past the 2009 season. So in actuality, the DA DOES NOT have all the leverage here. If that were true the case would not have been adjourned and the trial would not most likely be pushed out until 2010. The defense has already staked their leverage in this case. Maybe he will get charged with that crime, maybe he won't. You, me nor anybody knows. It's all speculation at this point. All I'm saying is Burress will do months in jail at most IF any time at all. That's my opinion and it hasn't changed one bit with all the new info. I'm hearing. We'll see if I'm right come 2010.
I would take either one and any Jet fan should be happy if either one of those guys came here. We would be taken much more seriously and every QB needs a top notch receiver. With either of those two, we would have it, and we would be a much better team for it. Keep the morality shit out of the way. That is their life and I am not concerned about what they do off of it, just as long as they are willing team players on Sunday. That is all I can hope for. Anything else they do is none of my business
