Brainlessly bash former Jet employee, Brian Schottenheimer

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  1. displacedfan

    displacedfan Well-Known Member

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    Oh I'm sure they will look worse, unfortunately Sanchez had Schotty for his 3 years so we have to judge him off that
     
  2. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    We have no idea what Sanchez will look like in a more vertical attack. Unfortunately we also have no idea what the pass protection will look like either.

    There's been a lot of bad timing around Sanchez since he arrived on the scene. It's not fair but people are judged by what they accomplish not by why they accomplished it. I suspect that unless we all get very lucky now the Sanchez window on the Jets is almost over and he'll wind up being the deluxe version of Rich Gannon somewhere else before it's all over.
     
  3. Zach

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    Does Drew Brees ring a bell for you? It's too early to give up on the kid.
     
  4. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Yeah Drew Brees rings a bell for me. He's great but not for the team that drafted him.
     
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    dawinner127 Well-Known Member

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    But he sure as hell looked good after the OC he had left him, eh?
     
  6. CJLang

    CJLang Well-Known Member

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    Schotty was his QB Coach, not OC. Brees last two years in SD were pretty darn good. in 2004- TD/Int 27-7, 104.5 passer rating, 65.5% completion rate, 2005- TD/Int 24-15, 90 passer rating, 64.6% completion.
     
  7. sg3

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    the quarterback you have to feel really bad for is poor Sam Bradford who is about to be saddled with the Son of Marty albatross of 5 receivers all running 4 yard curl patterns on
    3rd and 8
     
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    Zach Well-Known Member

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    Sam Crawford? Who is he, son of Cindy Crawford or something?

    I know Rams starting QB is Sam BRADFORD but that aside...
     
  9. sg3

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    oops, sorry


    the mind is a terrible thing to lose
     
  10. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    The deluxe version of Rich Gannon, really? That would put him on par with Manning, Favre and Brees all at once. Gannon was a 4 time pro bowl player.
     
  11. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    But Rich Gannon wasn't All Pro. Manning Brees and Favre were All Pros at one point. Sanchez almost made the probowl this past season
     
  12. PatsFanTX

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    And you know that how?
     
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    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Plenty of injuries last season in the AFC. If not for the poor game against the Giants and Dolphins most likely he would of made it. He did throw for 26 touchdowns. Def would of been in the running
     
  14. Big Blocker

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    I love how Sanchez Fans say he has not really had his shot yet, you need to give him more time, look at Eli, blah blah blah. Yet it's somehow a given he is/will be better than players younger than him on that list who've had less of a chance than Sanchez. Like Bradford and McCoy and Freeman. My own guess is Freeman will not develop much, but who knows about the other two at this point? Ponder was injured a lot last season, so in his case it is really hard to say about his future. Gabbert was a rookie, too. Now I am not saying any of them are currently better than Sanchez. I am only making the point this "he hasn't played enough!" stuff cuts both ways.

    Flacco and Palmer, probably Kolb, are imo better than Sanchez. Hasselbeck definitely so.

    So, in effect we are saying Sanchez currently is better than a bunch of green starters, and not really anyone else.

    And would you people who keep talking about the game as if the quarterback singlehandedly is responsible for a team going to the playoffs can that crap? Football is a team sport.
     
  15. PatsFanTX

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    I know there were alot of injuries in the AFC last year.

    But do you really think that a QB who was ranked 28th in completion percentage, 27th in YPA, 23rd in QB rating and who had the 2nd most turnovers of starting QB's, deserves a spot on the Pro Bowl roster?

    Even with all the injuries, there were many other AFC QB's more deserving than Sanchez.
     
  16. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    I never said he was all pro, read what I said. And at least in my book "deluxe" means better. So if Sanchez would be better than Gannon then he would be on par with Manning, Favre and Brees.
     
  17. Br4d

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    No, Rich Gannon was a game manager. He made the Pro Bowl 4 times running because he was a game manager for one of the best teams in football at that time and he had Tim Brown and Jerry Rice to throw too.

    Having Jon Gruden and Bill Callahan as the HC/OC didn't hurt either.
     
  18. Br4d

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    Just look at what happened to Bradford and Freeman with no help last year. Sanchez has had less help than a young QB should have over his first three seasons.

    2009 was a wash because the Jets threw him onto the fire and then went G&P to put out the flames. 2010 was the best they've done for him because they kept the OL moderately strong and only changed up one of his primary receivers. 2011 was just a joke.
     
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    5th in total touchdowns (3rd most passing TDs in AFC), 15th in passing yards, 5th in getting sacked. You can look at it many different ways, the kid is breaking out this year, provided our oline isn't swiss cheese this year. Touchdowns are THE single most important stat for a QB, and he's delivering in that category. Had he not been injured the last 3 games, his comp%, TO ratio and rating would have been much higher. He was edging the top 10 in most categories the first half+ of the season. It's just a shame he got so shell shocked by the line. He was a different QB by the end of the season, you could tell by his footwork, he felt like he could get hit on almost every play.
     
  20. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    All true and if Sanchez can be half of that we will do just fine. All indications are that is exactly what Rex wants from him going forward.
     

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