You're right, it was someone else who used those terms - sorry. On the other hand what Manish or Cimini or any other guy does in his spare time is none of my business. When they're working I want them to tell me what's going on that I can't see from my sofa and if he tells me the baby is ugly I'll take it at face value with just a bit of skepticism until I see for myself. Why would you want these guys to not be accurate, even if it means the Jets have blown up another plan?
You mean this link? Manish Mehta has spent three years as the Jets beat reporter. He has chronicled every grandiose Rex Ryan prediction one back page at a time. Mehta’s breaking news, analysis pieces and columns have taken readers behind the curtain of the most entertaining teams in the NFL. Thanks for proving my point. Now about that "making shit up" thing...?
It is not a beat reporters job to write opinion columns. Again want to be a columnist, be one. Let someone else report on the team in a balanced way and not use a thousand "unnamed" sources a week.
Don't be so disingenuous that you leave off the "not a columnist" part? You should be better than that. Once again, where does the "making shit up" come from?
You are not the editor of the paper. You do not get to decide what kind of writing anyone does. You just need to exercise a bit of judgement to differentiate between fact and opinion. If that's too confusing for you just refrain from the criticism of that which you don't understand.
I'm not being disingenuous. I've stated my position from the start. Since the beginning of time reporters report. They don't opine. As for the making shit up I don't have proof but it's been fairly loudly speculated for a while now that after Pettine left (the original unnamed source) he's been making a lot of these unnamed sources up or at the very best using someone not really connected to the team( friend of a friend, friend of a relative of a player)
Your own link proves that Manish is a reporter, an analyst and a columnist. I don't make the rules, but I understand what I read. If you don't, I can't help you. And if you really think that something "fairly loudly speculated" is proof of anything, especially "making shit up," once again I can't help you.
I have not made any personal inferences about you so you shouldn't about me. In your words, be better than that.
This is not a personal attack. You seem to be confused about roles in today's media as opposed to what were traditional roles, particularly on newspaper staffs. The times, they are a changin'. Without a proper frame of reference, your criticisms are misplaced and are what I question.
People complaining about Mehta and Cimini constantly harping about bad stuff forgetting there really isn't much good to talk about us. Also, Jets fans will read Jets news no matter what. Opposing fans don't give a crap about good every day things about other teams. But I sure as hell love reading about other team's dysfunctions.
Jets tried that once with Serby and it didn't work. They just got more bad press about a writer being shoved into a locker by a QB of all people. Terry Bradshaw must have loved that also. A writer being shoved into a locker by a guy who should have been wearing a dress! I think the crux of the problem is that sports writers should be uniformly decent people who don't lead bloodthirsty crusades against failing players. That should be our job as fans. But sportswriters do write for fans to read and so... If the average fans reaction to a blown play, or the tenth blown play of the game, was "Heavens to Murgatroyd! How did that happen?" the writers would have to tone it down also. Instead you get people throwing bags of dicks on the field and howling at the moon. Well, figuratively speaking.
The good old days. When Jet players would beat up beat reporters instead of each other. http://www.nytimes.com/1981/11/05/sports/jets-todd-roughs-up-reporter.html JETS' TODD ROUGHS UP REPORTER By GERALD ESKENAZI, Special to the New York Times Published: November 5, 1981 HEMPSTEAD, L.I., Nov. 4— Richard Todd, the Jets' quarterback, injured a reporter for The New York Post today by shoving him into a locker and then to the floor during the pre-practice time allotted for interviews at the team's camp here. The reporter, Steve Serby, was treated at the Nassau County Medical Center for facial injuries, then released. The incident occurred in a half-empty locker room, with many of the players already on the field. Todd, who is 6 feet 2 inches tall and weighs 205 pounds, several times had asked Mr. Serby, who said he is 5-8 and 152, to leave. When the reporter did not, Todd grabbed him by the throat, knocking his head into a locker, then shoving him to the floor. A lawyer for The Post, Ira Lee Sorkin, said that criminal assault charges would be filed against Todd tomorrow in the office of the Nassau County District Attorney, Denis Dillon. For more than a month, Todd had refused to speak to Mr. Serby, whose articles, the player says, have been unfair. Todd was especially distressed recently when one of Mr. Serby's articles suggested that the Jets would have been better off had they kept Matt Robinson as quarterback instead of Todd. Robinson was traded to the Denver Broncos two years ago. Before Mr. Serby, who is 32 years old, went to the hospital, he told newsmen that he had attempted to see Todd to clear the air. But Todd, 27, told Mr. Serby that he did not want to speak to him and told him several times to leave. The two quarreled, then Todd grabbed him. Todd would not consent to be interviewed about the situation, but the Jets' president, Jim Kensil, reached at the club's office in New York, said that he had spoken with Todd by telephone and that ''Richard told me he told Serby to leave at least three times.'' ''We certainly don't condone pushing on or off the field, despite long-term provocation,'' said Kensil, who added that he would meet with Todd tomorrow. Mr. Sorkin said, ''If Mr. Kensil regards the printed word as provocation, then Mr. Kensil is living in the wrong country.'' This was the third such incident in recent years involving pro football players and newsmen. In 1979, after a game against the Jets, Ray Clayborn of the New England Patriots and Will McDonough, a Boston Globe reporter, exchanged punches. During the playoffs early last year, Dan Pastorini, then with the Houston Oilers, shoved Dale Robertson of The Houston Post. The N.F.L. will ask the Jets about the incident, a spokesman said.
That was an interesting team.......had a good amount of talent but IMO the coaching and game plans were suspect at times. I remember the serby thing clearly and i remember many folks not being too sympathetic towards the reporter.
I agre that in general the NYDN is a horrendous news source but Manish is a clear cut problem for the jets. Everytime there is an unnamed source surfacing making very damaging claims they always stem from Manish. I just don't understand how he survives in the locker room and how he still gets access. The guy is literally writing puff pieces to create division and negative buzz.
Anyone here remember Herm saying that Pennington looked shitty in practice....... behind Tory Woodbury?
When we fired Rex and were looking for a HC, Woody was considering Marrone. Manish went crazy slamming Marrone with article after article until Woody backed away. This was one of many. http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/f...arrone-not-well-liked-bills-article-1.2064861
The fans did not throw a bag of dicks onto the field. The Jets FO signed them to contracts and presented them as "football players"
Manish Mehta has blocked me on twitter awhile ago because I openly criticized him for being a joke for a beat writer. No one wants cheerleaders for beat writers. Not only is that disingenuous and false, but fans deserve to hear criticism of their team. But, what Mehta does is he creates division, he wants to see this team fail because when things are going good people don't care to read him. We went 5-11, let me write articles with unnamed sources knocking a 21 year old QB who hasn't taken a meaningful snap in the NFL.....you know who does that kinda stuff? A person who enjoys kicking someone when they're down...Like I've said before, Manish Mehta is a cancer to the NYJ.
