Bitter Barlow

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  1. Br4d

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    The Jet's cut Mawae because they didn't want a Kosar-like presence destroying the Jet's lockerroom when Mangini got tough.
     
  2. 4jetfans

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    I dont think its going to happen but I would to see him play in the Giants game and rush for 70 or 80 yards.
     
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    barlow rips mike nolan

    this is just too damn funny!!!! I wonder if this interview happened before or after his afternoon nap??
     
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    His reaction is reminicent of a few posters here after Herm said he was not leaving for KC....Pot meet Kettle.
     
  5. fenwyr

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    Well, the Hitler comment was over the top, but Nolan is an ass-hat both for lieing to Barlow, and for the way he runs the team in general. The comment about Nolan drafting Gore and being biased was spot on. He's in completely over his head, and the niners are pretty much screwed.

    With that said, Barlow is coming in with a chip on his shoulder. GOOD! If he stays healthy and wins the job outright he could be looking at a 1300 yard season. For now he's pissed he had to leave his home and buddies to move cross country. That will fade. But his anger to prove Nolan wrong will not. It will fester in his gut and he will strive to prove Nolan made a bad decision. Again, that's good for us.
     
  6. Phlyphrytz

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    "He has too much power as a first-time head coach. He walks around with a chip on his shoulder, like he's a dictator, like he's Hitler. People are scared of him. If it ain't Nolan's way, it's the highway."


    He's the FUCKING head coach you RETARD!!!!

    If this is how he feels about Nolan, I smell trouble with regards to Mangini.

    We have a drama queen, boys.......

    And someone's gonna be in for quite a RUDE awakening here in Jetland. (so this is how he spends his days off???)
     
  7. fenwyr

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    Reading comprehension... Nolan also has ulimate decision on player personel. Yes, that IS too much power for a first time NFL HC. Barlow was right, but was a little over the top in how he expressed it.

    When was the last time we had a drama queen? Keyshawn Johnson. All he ever did was help us win games. Nolan = Moron. Mangini <> Moron. Curtis Martin = Hero and Mentor. This will work out well for us.
     
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    NO more breaks for this guy.....he's supposed to be resting or studying the playbook, yet he has somehow found the energy to discuss his feelings for his ex-coach.
     
  9. AlioTheFool

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    You know, I was going to post an angry reaction until I read this post. Nice way to put fenwyr. A very intelligent argument on your part. :beer:

    I am still a little disturbed about the comments though, especially about being forced to work too hard. However, I guess when you consider Nolan is acting without a boss, it is significantly different than Mangini.

    I don't have so much of a problem with a prima donna, as long as they perform. Keyshawn could play. Same for a guy like Chad Johnson. If Barlow can play at that level, then I can deal with a tantrum once in a while. As long as it doesn't wind up in Marbury or TO proportions.

    Like you said, I hope Curtis can really be a good mentor to the kid. What a guy to get to learn from!
     
  10. Phlyphrytz

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    so... is this to say that Mangini won't making the decision on which QB to cut?

    How is this different? If mangini doen't want to keep someone, he tells Tannebaum. With Nolan, he just does it himself. If the end result is the same... then how is it really different/?
     
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    Mangini is not the director of player personel. The Jets have someone (name escapes me) in that role, and Tanny is also in the mix. They work together to make decisions. Nolan has ultimate decision making power on his own. That's how it's different.
     
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    But the end result is the same.... the coach decides who stays and who goes. it just a matter of who does the paperwork afterwards.
     
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    Yeah, this is what actually sold me on the trade. Reading about how Martin was Barlow's idol, following a completely identical patch to the NFL, and how excited he was that Martin basically greeted him at the door. You can't buy motivation like that. Add to that the fact that this is IT for Barlow. He's entering his best years, and if he plans to get one more big payday, he has to perform now.
     
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    See, that's not really true. The GM and DPP have a ton of say in these matters. These people sit down in a board room and discuss who stays and who goes. For example, Bradway had final say on who we drafted for the previous 5 years. Nolan has had final say in the last two 49er drafts. That's crazy for an owner to give a 1st time HC that kind of power.
     
  15. AlioTheFool

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    I'll put a better example on the table.

    In San Diego, Schotty wanted desperately to keep Brees with the team. The GM is the man who decided that Brees was expendable, simply because Rivers was his own draft pick.

    So the coach did not 1) have a say in the original personell decision, and 2) did not have the option to keep his preferred player.

    It's crazy to give anyone short of Parcells that kind of power.
     
  16. Phlyphrytz

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    I see your point... yet I don't. Lemme tell ya why. Most, if not all drafts are done by commitee... that's a fair given. It's also done after reevaluation the most previous season. (fresh material) What do we need? Who should we look at? etcetc As for Brees/Rivers, that was a decision right around draft time. Setting up for the upcoming season, before OTA's minicamps, etc.

    But here... this Barlow thing... we're in training camp, we're just starting the season - not finishing it, and players are busting their ass to make the team.... any team. It's evaluation time, not REevaluation time. And the coach decides who stays and who goes. If you do your job, and do it well... you're in. You play to impress the coach, not the GM. If this transaction happened right after the season ended, then yeah... I would say Nolan has too much power. But when every one is vying for a position on the team.... than no.... I can't. You play for the coach.
     
  17. Coach K

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    Barlow wasnt talking about his situation specifically hes talking about the fact that Nolan has GM powers.

    and actually you do play for the GM, he's someone the owner has on speed dial. and someone that tells the coach how to go about his business. its not just some fantasy job that doesnt exist. theres a reason a huge ordeal was made when Parcells became coach of the Cowboys. People know Parcells wants total control and say so in the whole operation. The kind thats just not handed over to your average coach.

    And Nolan, coming into a team thats rebuilding, gets complete control as a rookie HC?

    im not even defending Kevan Barlows stance, I'm talking football.

    Your basically saying GM isnt a job because the Coach runs the show when its simply not true.
     
  18. SigmaXJet

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    Barlow apologizes for calling Nolan a 'dictator'

    Barlow apologizes for calling Nolan a 'dictator'

     
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    Good, I would be pissed too. Hopefully he will kick serious @-$-$ on the J-E-T-S!!!!
     
  20. mem_reddog

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    Well now I see why they were so willing to give him up. What a whiner. We see how well he handles adversity. :rolleyes:
     

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