Bills Injuries and Next Week

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  1. The_Bills_R_Due

    The_Bills_R_Due New Member

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    See usually I would. I was there for every game during the 3-13 season, because they fought hard and were marginally competitive. It's the way this team is losing. The offense is extremely conservative and predictable (what happened to the long ball?????) and the defense is signing guys off of the street, just to be able to field enough players on defense. This should be Chad's coming out game and your running game should come alive this week as well. Offensively watch out for Marshawn Lynch and ..... Marshawn Lynch.
     
  2. ScotsJet

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    If the Bills had a competent coach I'd fancy them to come out throwing, but I just don't see Jauron risking it.
     
  3. EarlytoRise

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    Whittle wasn't a starter, we'd put him in for special teams and short yardage fullback..
     
  6. NYJVilma51MVP

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    The Bills have way too many injuries for the Jets to lose. Half their defensive starters are either on IR or hurt. (McGee, Webster, Ellison, Posluszny, Simpson, Wire) The Jets have to be able to take advantage of that secondary. The Bills run defense might be just as bad as their pass defense. This is the game for the Jets to play offense.

    The Jets should be able to put 8 men in the box for most o the game. You dont have to worry about passing often because of jauron's incredible conservative theory (If thats what you call it). Stuff the run, and the offense is done. The Bills shouldn't be able to score more than 12 points with that offense. If the Jets can't score more than that on the worst defense in the league, then the Jets might as well sink their ship into the ocean.
     
  7. The_Bills_R_Due

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    Sadly, I agree with everything you just said NYJVilma. If the Jets dont beat the Bills... Wow! Normally I would say that Marshawn would give you guys problems, but we run in obvious situations far too often for him to have a huge impact. If your play calling is predictable, the offense will suffer. We are not only the worst D in the league, but I believe we are the worst offense as well. Yuck...
     
  8. Catt_County

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    Thanks for the kind words for the Bills. You guys have more respect for what they've gone through than a number of supposed Bills fans. The Bills have had a tough run of bad luck the first three games with injuries, but they've never quit, and they'll give 110% again Sunday.

    Watch out for Marshawn. He's the "real deal", and will probably get a lot of touches with rookie QB Trent Edwards in for JP Losman, who will probably try mostly short passes against your D. I'm sure Aaron Schobel will be looking to own D'Brick again this year. :wink:
     
  9. Section 227. Row 5

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    Article in today's Star-Ledger on the Bills game:

    http://www.nj.com/sports/ledger/index.ssf?/base/sports-1/1190953657317950.xml&coll=1

    Beefed-up Bills Could Be Trouble With Ground Game

    Friday, September 28, 2007
    BY DAVE HUTCHINSON
    Star-Ledger Staff

    HEMPSTEAD, N.Y. -- It didn't take a gridiron genius to figure out what type of team the Buffalo Bills were trying to build in the off-season when they signed left guard Derrick Dockery and right tackle Langston Walker -- both unrestricted free agents -- for a combined $74 million.

    And if bigger is better, the Bills got some bang for a considerable amount of bucks.

    The 6-6, 335-pound Dockery left the Redskins for a seven-year, $49-million deal with the Bills. The 6-8, 355-pound Walker parted ways with the Raiders for a five-year, $25-million pact. They are joined up front by left tackle Jason Peters (6-4, 328 pounds), right guard Brad Butler (6-7, 325 pounds) and center Melvin Fowler, a mere lightweight at 6-3, 310.

    In Buffalo, when you ask: "Where's the beef?" you need look no further than Sunday afternoons at Ralph Wilson Stadium.

    "They're not doing that to be a trick team or a passing team," Jets linebacker Eric Barton said yesterday. "They're just going to try to beat you up."

    That's exactly what the injury-decimated Bills (0-3) will have in mind on Sunday when the Jets (1-2) come to town to face rookie quarterback Trent Edwards, who will make his first career start in place of the injured J.P. Losman (knee). The plan is to establish the running game behind explosive rookie tailback Marshawn Lynch to take the heat off Edwards.

    In recent years, the Bills have found nothing but yards of real estate when running the ball against the Jets. Former Bill Willis McGahee rushed for 705 yards in six career games against the Jets, including five straight 100-yard games, before being traded to Baltimore during the off-season.

    "It (running the ball) is important every game," Peters told The Buffalo News this week. "But when you have a rookie quarterback, we have to take some pressure off him and one way to do that is by running the ball more."

    Added Dockery: "I never saw a defense that likes to be pounded on. The Jets have a good defense. Their front seven is quick and athletic. But if we execute, there's no reason why we can't control the line of scrimmage, move the ball and control the clock."

    The Bills, who have faced stout defenses in Denver, Pittsburgh and New England, have nonetheless rushed for more than 100 yards in each of their first three games. Problem is, they've scored just 24 points and haven't been able to get the lead and run the ball.

    Meanwhile, the Jets have yet to hold an opponent to under 100 yards, allowing 121.3 yards rushing per game. The Jets' 3-4 scheme, in its second season, is still a work in progress and coach Eric Mangini has chosen to anchor his defensive line with 310-pound nose tackle Dewayne Robertson rather than a 350-pounder. The Jets' starting defensive line averages just 296 pounds.

    On paper, it's a recipe for a career day by Lynch, who has rushed for 228 yards and two touchdowns on 57 carries this season.

    "Those are some big boys and if they get you going, you're going to be going for a long time," Jets defensive end Eric Hicks said. "We have to play really good technique and stay low on them. Football is always going to be football. It's always going to be that the low man who has leverage and can get his hands inside you is going to win."

    Added backup nose tackle C.J. Mosley: "We have to definitely have our heads on right in the run game."

    The Jets have been talking technique for two seasons now and have yet to show an ability to consistently stop the run. Lynch, selected 12th overall out of Cal, could add to their woes. Strong safety Erik Coleman (28) and cornerback David Barrett (27) are the Jets' leading tacklers, which isn't a good sign.

    "We know they're going to want to run the ball," Barrett said, "so we have to be ready for that."


    Dave Hutchinson may be reached at

    dhutchinson@starledger.com
     
  10. Hobbes3259

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    I will be very curious to see, how well their size handles speed.

    Size is great. If you are going between the tackles, for 3.5 to 4 a pop.

    Spread those 5 Big guys out, and they should have trouble conrolling the gaps.
     
  11. Section 227. Row 5

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    Yeah, it'll be an interesting game. Lynch is averaging 4 ypc with 100-yard games against Denver, NE and Pittsburgh. We, on the other hand, have allowed 123 yards per game. No secret what the Bills' game plan should be. But the Bills have only scored 24 points total! Seems impossible, except look at who they've played. Our DEF is not as good as any of those, so we're in for a tougher game than it would seem (just looking at the record and the numbers).

    We'll have to bring extra guys in to plug the run and challenge Trent Edwards to throw the ball, leaving whoever is left in the secondary to bat the passes down. Allowing the Bills to convert repeatedly on 3rd downs is going to make for an exhausting day for our DEF.

    At some point, Pennington has to get his hands on the ball, and then we're going to have to make every drive count... with 7 points, not FGs. If we can get the early lead and hold it, that should keep the Buffalo fans a little quiet, but if we don't, it's an uphill struggle all day long.

    Jets 27
    Bills 16
     
  12. Yisman

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    back to back weeks the team we face is missing a key run-stopping linebacker
     
  13. Hobbes3259

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    I think given the fact that the Bills have to run the ball, we should be aggressive early and try to put up big plays in the passing game., and force them out of what they want to do.

    If this game goes the way it should the question is, will Clemens see some game time ?
     
  14. Section 227. Row 5

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    Are you saying the game will become lopsided enough to get Clemens in there? Maybe it will if our DEF can shut down the run. God, I'd personally love to see Clemens get some garbage time in the 4th quarter... love that kid.
     
  15. Yisman

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    we were one of the worst teams at stopping the run last season. same thing this season
     
  16. Yisman

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    Elloitt? You mean Kevin Everett?
     
  17. Yisman

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    no way. he's the best QB on the ravens roster and he's better than many of the QBs in the league right now. I'd definitely take him over Joey Harrington, Josh McCown, JP Losman, David Garrard, etc.
     
  18. Yisman

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    never underestimate the Jets ability to play down to the competition.



    so which one of us should do it?
     

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