i highly, highly doubt we get him...he will demand a nate clements like contract (8 years, 80 million)...u guys know he has a tattoo that says "get paid" right?
There were rumors about this and Jetsman22 posted a bunch of articles saying Samuel was happy. Kinda makes me wish Jetsman22 wasn't banned so he could eat crow.
Because of money. Nowadays, the first round pick that plays good for 18 million for 4 years is more valuable than the better player that costs 60 million for seven years. That's why draft picks are so valuable, why the Pats are so smart, and why Snyder of the Skins is so dumb. So, yes, Samuel is a better player but not necesarily more valuable to the team, because of the players who have to move elsewhere because Samuel will be pocketing their money if you were to sign him.
It doesn't matter if this guy gets traded to us or not, what matters is that if he gets traded we don't have to see him twice a year and possibly a 3rd. He has been one of the Pats that has absolutely owned us over the last few years. I'll be glad to see him out of New England but I doubt he gets traded.
Pats want Two 1st Rnd picks for Samuel, which in this Jet era will not happen. I'd rather take Ross or Revis in the 1st. Mangini is a former secondary coach, so he knows how to mold backs and even make mediocore backs play well (Poteat).... reports say that Revis is a highly intelligent back, which means that if he plays on the same side as Rhodes, thats a tough side to throw to. Samuel is just too expensive for the Jets, especially when building through the draft is now the mindset of the administration.
Good point, but if he goes, I'd hate to see them steal a Ross or Revis right in front of us. Then we pray for a bust, which with that team, doesnt happen in the 1st rd
Sometimes I guess I just fall asleep at the switch. Here I was, caught up in my own business, and Asante Samuel morphed into Charles Woodson. Go figure.
hahaha exactly Jack. I was thinking the same thing. I saw phrases like bonafide stud and laughed. He picked off alot of passes this yr, whatever. Hes been in the league and developed. But I dont think he will have the consistency to bring those kinds of years in and out. I'd much rather us draft a WR/CB at 25 and let the pats keep a malcontent player instead of us jumping on a player surrounded by one of the best front 7's in the league, and them nabbing 3 top prospects. no thanks.
i don't think he's as good as all the hype. it's not very likely he'll have another year like last (which was by the way, his only really good year)!! but it's a pipe dream if you think the jets will get him for a 2nd and 3rd pick. too many other teams out there that buy into the hype and will PAY$$$$$.....
He's really not that good. Yes, he has a high number of interceptions, but it's only because teams throw on him. Coles is coming off a career year. You can't dismiss what his numbers mean. Simply put, he moves the chains. The best we could hope to get from a rookie receiver is 50 or so catches. I think this is going to shake out well. New England is probably going to lose a young, established starter at a premium position, on a defense that is going to become more heavily reliant on its youth along the defensive line. -X-
The NFL will never try to fix the franchise tag because if they bring it up to the union again, it will never pass. Just wait for it to expire and then be done with it already.
There is no chance in hell that our FO would trade for this kid. He's a pretty good player, and has been a beast in the post season, but to give our biggest division rival 2 high draft picks would hurt us incredibly.
Asante Samuel not happy with franchise tag, seeking trade! Sorry if repost: Patriots' Samuel makes a statement (April 4, 2007) -- A near perfect offseason in New England now is being interrupted with a reminder that not everything is ideal in Patriots Nation. Free-agent cornerback Asante Samuel, whom the Patriots slapped with their franchise tag in February, is so displeased and discouraged with his contract talks with the team that he now is open to the idea of playing elsewhere and will seek a trade. "This is to let everybody know that I'm not happy anymore and things are not going well," Samuel said in his first public comments since the Patriots franchised him. "At first I thought it was going well, but it's not. Asante Samuel feels his value is higher than the Patriots realize. "We have a difference of opinion in my value. They think I'm worth one price and the other teams think I'm worth a lot more. If a long-term deal can't be done at fair numbers for me and New England, then I want to be traded." If a long-term deal cannot get done with New England and a trade to another team does not happen, Samuel said he also is prepared to take steps he would rather not and sit out this season. "If it's best for me and my family," Samuel said, "I will do that. Absolutely." Patriots spokesman Stacey James declined to comment. However this plays out, New England looks as if it is going to have to address this potential problem after solving others this offseason with the additions of linebacker Adalius Thomas, running back Sammy Morris, tight end Kyle Brady and wide receivers Wes Welker, Donte' Stallworth and Kelley Washington. "We want to get something done and my hope is we will," said Samuel, who intercepted 12 passes last season, including two he returned for touchdowns in the playoffs against the Indianapolis Colts and the New York Jets. "But if it doesn't get done, I'm prepared to do what's best for me and my family. It's not what I want to do, but what I have to do. They're handling their business the way they feel they have to and I'm going to do the same." Samuel now would like to be able to strike a deal with another team. Problem is, any team that signs Samuel to an offer sheet -- and the Cleveland Browns, New York Jets, New Orleans Saints and Washington Redskins are among the many teams seeking upgrades at the position -- would have to compensate the Patriots with two first-round picks. A team also could arrange a sign-and-trade deal, but it's unlikely that New England would be willing to deal the 26-year-old Samuel within its division, although the Patriots once did so with free-agent running back Curtis Martin. "The rest of the league knows I'm worth more than New England is offering, but they're scared of that (compensation)," Samuel said. "But I want to get this over with bad enough that I'm willing to work with any team to get a fair long-term deal done." Samuel's frustration goes beyond the limitations that other teams are facing in trading for him. He said that when the offseason started, the Patriots told him they would take care of him with "an elite contract." But in Samuel's opinion, no "elite contract" has been forthcoming at a time when San Francisco shelled out $80 million for free-agent cornerback Nate Clements. Also, Samuel has watched the Patriots reward players such as Thomas with big money while he has not been offered a similar deal for his role in helping the Patriots win two Super Bowls and come within a few minutes of reaching another last season. Now, after contract talks stalled again, and the sides remain far apart, Samuel felt he had to push this issue from the background to the forefront. "I've been patient, haven't said anything bad, haven't said anything negative," Samuel said. "But my patience has run out. Business is business. They handled their business their way and I'm handling my business my way. I hope not, I really hope not, but it's looking more and more like it could be time to move on." I personally wouldn't give up 2 first rounders for him. Interested in what the rest of you guys think. Again, sorry if it's a repost.
