Are You SURE You REALLY Want Sanchez Off The Jets ??

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  1. nyjunc

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    http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/post/_/id/35880/sunday-notes-heard-around-the-combine
     
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    I've made it known I'm not Mark's biggest supporter, but the amount of scrutiny he got from the buttfumble is disgusting.

    It was definitely a funny play, and I can see why it got popular, but the fact that it still gets mentioned is ridiculous. Wilfork doesn't get enough credit for making Moore his bitch on that play.
     
  3. The 1985er

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    I've watched this many times please point out to me when Wilfork pushed Moore into Sanchez.

     
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    It was a broken play from the beginning -- where did the running back go? I was sitting in the endzone for that play and when sanchez started his slide Moore made contact -- i don't think Sanchez expected that to happen and was looking to his right not his left. It was an ugly play but just shows how ugly that offense under Sporano was all season rolled into 1 play.
     
  5. nyjunc

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    what would what Moore did the play prior have anything to do with this play?
     
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    buttfumble again? c'mon guys ...
     
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    ^ This. Talk about beating a dead horse. Brandon Moore got undeserved criticism because Wilfolk didn't blow him up off the snap. It was a busted play that went from bad to worse to worst in a flash. Sanchez might as well have said "Murphy's Law on TWO" in the huddle. Screw it, screw Bill Polian and move on already.

    It's over with....it's all been said....and nothing's changed. Only thing left to do is wait and see what Idzik's got planned.
     
  8. Acad23

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    Exactly.

    Let's put it behind us...
     
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  9. TNJet

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    There literally is no QB in the NFL Sanchez could beat out. We have watched this shitty offense for so long that we believe it is the norm. Trust me, it is not.
     
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    :eek:o_O
     
  11. Ajitator

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    From that angle Moore appears to be leaning forward and pushing Wilfork back at the start of the play, Wilfork pushes back and gains leverage just as Sanchez is stepping up to slide. Moore is about to fall on his ass if Sanchez isn't right behind him. You can see how off balance he is. If Moore holds his man forward Sanchez might be able to slide behind him without an issue. I'm not saying it's 100% moore's fault, But to put 100% of the blame on Sanchez is just as ludicrous.

    It's just a broken play that was, and still is blown way out of proportion. Just go do a search in this thread.
     
  12. The 1985er

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    At what point does Wilfork gain leverage? From what I've seen Moore was containing Wilfork the entire time and Sanchez had a brain fart and ran into Moore's ass.
     
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    Happens pretty quick in that video but you can clearly see the change, Wilfork is pushed back 2-3 yards and brick lower leverage and is pushing with his legs leaning forward. As the play is broken Vince recovers and you can see that moore is thrown off balance backwards. ( he is stood straight up ) I'm fairly certain if Sanchez wasn't running forward at that exact moment Moore would have landed on his ass by himself.

    How else would you explain Moore being on the ground at the end of the play? Sanchez muscular frame was to much for him to handle being run into?


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  14. The 1985er

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    Sanchez running full speed into his ass while wrestling another guy may have something to do with Moore falling down?

    Honestly watching live I thought Moore was thrown into Sanchez. Then after watching play it's fairly obvious that Sanchez just made a mistake. I really don't see what you're talking about. And I've watched the play a ton.
     
  15. Ajitator

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    Take out the fumble, You don't think there's a point in that video that Moore is off balance and loses leverage?

    I'm not a line expert but if your standing straight up and your engaged with someone im pretty sure you've already lost.

    Anyone care to step in with knowledge of Oline play? I'm not pretending to be an expert


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    I'm using my naked eye Moore WAS off balance. But there is a difference between off balance and being thrown into Sanchez which some were suggesting. Wilfork was of balance too, they were both battling for position. Moore was holding his own, while containing one of the best NT in the league.
     
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    This. Wilfork was in the process of tipping Moore over on his ass.

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  18. truthbtold

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    To JUNC, Stokes and all the other Sanchez supporters ....

    I posted this previously, but I'll say it again ---
    When we played Atlanta last season Geno led us to points on our first three drives. It was the first time the Jets had scored points on their first three possessions in FIVE YEARS!

    Not TD's on their first three drives .... Just points. Five years.
    That's 0 for the entire Mark Sanchez era. You guys don't find that alarming?

    Sure, there are other factors involved, but if you don't think the QB is a major reason for that, you're in denial. How can anyone seriously want this guy to be running our offense again?
     
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    I was at the Atlanta game, it was one of the best away games I've been to in years and I go to 1 or 2 a year.

    My comments about Sanchez in this thread have NOTHING to do with Geno.

    Why can't you understand that? I've said it half a dozen times in this thread, and in others, Sanchez is likely done here and he needs to go elsewhere. I just question the unadulterated hate and the revisionist history about a guy who gave it his all and helped us to a couple of entertaining seasons. He's a Jet and I'll never hate him.

    I haven't ONCE said I want him back, as a starter or otherwise. What in anything I've said here are you still confused about?

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  20. truthbtold

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    I don't hate the guy either ... But the fact is he didn't perform well here. He always played at a level that was near the bottom of the league, from start #1 to start #60-whatever, with a few and far between exceptions. A couple of those exceptions happened to be in the post season. The people who act like he wasn't a bottom tier QB for his entire tenure as a Jet starter are the ones who are trying to revise history. He was a bad quarterback, who was clearly the weakest link on otherwise good teams. I'm not saying he didn't give his all, but unfortunately he never got it. Year 4 looked exactly like year 1. I don't need to see more of the same.

    If you're in the camp that wants him out of here, then we actually agree. There are others who still want him to be on the 2014 roster. No thanks.
     
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