Yea for whatever reason he really struggles in that area. When you have to throw out a large portion of high percentage passes from the offense because the QB has some kind of mental block it's a big problem. And Morningwood has more of those types of passes in his offense than usual, I'd say. It's part of why I laugh when people assume Sanchez was a lock to start before he got injured. That and Rex clearly didn't have him penciled in as the starter when he put him in with the 3rd stringers in the preseason.
The big plus with Vick is his Marty connection. But my big concern with him is his health. I'm still shaken from when the Jets picked up Jay Fiedler to back up Chadwick. Fiedler had been off the field as much as Chad up until then, more or less. So what happens? Chad goes down for the season, and so does Fiedler IN THE SAME GAME. Net result? An unprepared and overwhelmed Brooks Bollinger, and the season goes right down the toilet.
I was not comparing Foles a year ago to Smith now. I was comparing Foles now to Smith now, and I did not say Smith has no upside. RIght now, Foles is far better than Smith.
I prefer realism to rosecolored glass wearing pom pom waving party lining homerism. SO shoot me. As far as a good move, Smith MAY become a good player. But last year he as arguably the worst starting Qb in the whole league. And given the general tenor of your posts here, I feel good about you not agreeing with me.
Yeah I think people are mostly remember the last 4 games only, something I've fallen in the trap of doing. Geno has shown flashes and the hope is that the end of last season was him finally "getting it" in his rookie year. Maybe or maybe not, but he has shown flashes. That doesn't say much, because every QB shows "flashes" that's why they were drafted/started. That's why this offseason is important for Geno/the Jets. The Jets should be adding offensive skill position talent and provide better depth on the OL. That should stabilize the offense no matter who starts. As of right now, I had to answer Geno because I don't know who the FA/veteran QB we got. If we got Vick for example, I would be excited to see if MM could help him out here and get a great offense, but I wouldn't be comfortable because I would be afraid he would get hurt.
Vick is injury prone but he's no Pennington. I think Vick being injury prone actually has some upside if you think Geno has some potential. It would give him opportunities. And I think Simms is a far better prospect than Bollinger ever was. Bollinger ended up starting for the Vikes one year too didn't he?
I didn't really mean to talk about Bollinger in terms of talent. It was more that he was left totally unprepared to take over the team, this being a Hermtite led coaching staff, when Chadley and Fiedler went down. I also don't see how being injury prone has upside, but that's just me. Simms - Count me very much as someone who wants a vet Qb on the roster, but that's not because I think Simms has no upside. Part of me would like to see what he could really do with tweaking the playbook, practice with the firsrt team, and before that some real work in camp and pre-season. I hope he works on his game this off season, and comes in ready to compete. Having said that, I am not comfortable in relying on two young guys who are both rather raw and unproven. I know Simms was apparently all for signing up for another year with the Jets, but he would probably be better off somewhere else, as a real backup to a vet he could learn from. As it stands Simms worries me as the #2 to Smith, since neither one is close to a sure thing. Assuming Smith is healthy on Opening Day and a vet Qb is on the team, Simms might not even suit up.
Bollinger was our 4th string QB that year, he wasn't expected to play. To bash the CS/FO over him playing is silly.
and i will probably never trip over it as long as i keep entertaining my self with the unfounded drivel you litter the board with. champ
Why does everyone think that bringing in a vet qb is automatically a good thing. Didn't anyone watch North Dallas Forty?
This all depends on what we are doing? If the jets were smart they would add a QB via draft pick/FA, Then I would be fine with Geno getting the first snap of the season. I would definitely not wait till he puts us in the position he did last season when we were holding down the wild card for like 3-5 weeks and just let him knock us out the picture. I and a lot of jet fans were not a big fan of him to begin with . The guy did fall all the way to the second round 8th spot. I wanna REAL QB and am sick of the team needing a QB since chad.
Simms has a year under his belt and has worked with this staff for a year .. Sometimes just watching and learning helps his development. I say Simms HAS a future in this league if not because there are guy's like lewis getting starts for the bills.
Simms might well have a future, if he has the right experience. That remains to be seen. Ftr I thought Bollinger was held back by his experience. No prep, then thrown into the maelstrom. That kind of scenario is far from optimal.
I want a vet who has a real chance to be the starter, not another Garrard. If such a vet comes in, and Smith wins the job, so be it. But if the vet wins, then that's fine, too, since it would mean the Jets have upgraded from the current roster.
If we can get Vick that'll be great. Just as long as he's okay being the backup. But we definitely need a capable backup QB in case Geno struggles or gets hurt.
What if a QB falls in the draft like Carr ? I think the question should be that Geno should get the upper hand to start the first game . I would not declare any QB our season starter. Geno gets to work with the first team and if he looks bad in preseason? Then give someone else a shot like Simms.
Vick stunk in MM system. What makes you think he will be able to play a full season? Vick is not the way this team should go. Just another overrated QB past his prime that lost most his speed and cannot see over his linemen. I am sorry but I am so glad people like you are not running this team.
