Are the JETS wrong here??

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by Royal Tee, Dec 6, 2010.

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Are the JETS just flat out wrong?

  1. ABSOLUTELY. Leave the restaurant alone.

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  2. HELL NO. It's their name.

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  3. AYFKM? It's a Kosher Japanese Steakhouse!!!

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  1. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    Who profits from the Jets name on here? No one.

    Also, its the internet. Its not something that is easily regulated.
     
  2. Jets007

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    lol I meant lawsuit
     
  3. Jets007

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    SO is it ok to create a website based on NFL schedule and Not get attacked by the NFL?
     
  4. MadBacker Prime

    MadBacker Prime THE Dead Rabbit

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    By posting released info?


    That'd be like a newspaper getting in trouble for writing a article about a game.



    This is more like me selling a product on a website called Gang Green, and it looks like a Jet logo in chia pet form. I would need permission to sell that item.
     
  5. JfaulkNYJ

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    who gives a fuck really. this is about $$, and this guy is using the jets name. last time i checked you cant fucking use somebody elses name/product to sell shit for yourself.
     
  6. NDmick

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    What profits off the name New York Jets have Petro made? You're not understanding the fact that you can't take the name of a business and use it to make money. Its illegal no matter what the intent is. The law doesn't acknowledge the fact its a fan harmlessly paying tribute to his favorite team. The law sees it as someone stealing an image to increase sales. You can't do that.

    We just put up a thread trying to raise money for the site.
     
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  7. Talisman

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    Well, technically he "profits" from people clicking Google Ads (added quotes since I doubt nearly enough people click the ads for Petro to turn a profit).

    I'm sure that the 100% black-and-white truth is that this restaurant is in the wrong, but I think that it's somewhat petty for the Jets to C&D the food names. They should embrace the local community that's embracing the team. Remember the restaurant that made the "Rothlesburger" when Big Ben was drafted? Its all in good fun, the team should have left it alone.
     
  8. Chrebet86

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    Im sure legally the jets are right but seriously...come on. I guess the Bar near my house is next because they name their fat sandwiches after NFL teams.
     
  9. MadBacker Prime

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    I wound't want to name any kind of meat Gang Green though.


    I don't think everyone would appreciate that. lol
     
  10. Quinnenthebeast

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    Yeah, its got the popularity equivalent of rugby in the states...pretty much a small following.
     
  11. Wizard Of Odds

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    This is a tough one. From a PR standpoint, it was a bad move. From a legal standpoint they have the right to do what they did. But plenty of resturants have sandwiches and things named after movie stars and whatever and nobody has ever sicked lawyers on them for it.


    Maybe the Jets should have let this one ride, but maybe they're trying to head things off before they win the Superbowl... then everybody will wanna do it.
     
  12. Milliner is your Mommy

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    Women always making a fuss.
     
  13. JetBlue

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    no, the law only allows the Jets to protect their TM, which is the words New York Jets and their images. if he isn't using either, they have no grounds. not to mention, they would have to have New York Jets TM for use with restaurants or food items, and then to maintain and protect that TM show use. TM's do not allow you to simply swipe up a TM and squat on it to prevent others from using it.

    and this site sells advertising, and thus is profiting, so it would fall into the same grounds which you are claiming it doesn't. the issue is whether it would cause confusion to the consumer and think it was actually a product by the New York Jets, which can cause harm to their brand if the quality is lacking. it would be hard to claim a dish that is merely paying homage would be doing such.

    their claim has zero merit.
     
  14. Yisman

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    The owner of the website does.

    The posters don't, correct.
     
  15. The Jutty

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    The Jet's are legally right they have a right to protect their brand, but it's a restaurant it's not like these dudes were rolling in cash because they were using the Jet's in their dish names. I bet they were just fans.
     
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    the beauty of it is i bet this guy gets alot more free advertising from the jets making a big deal of this than he would have if they just didnt bother.

    either way the jets look bad and he profits, although i am sure he doesnt think as highly of the jets organization as he did a few weeks ago.
     
  17. The Jutty

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    The simple solution would to be to drop the s and just call the food Jet whatever, and don't use any logos at all. I don't know if he did or not.
     
  18. JetBlue

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    considering a court hasn't ruled on it, we don't know if they are legally right. the only thing they have a right to do is argue that it is infringement. but anyone with any knowledge of TM issues should be able to see their claim is frivolous.

    the Jets would never allow this to go to trial because they would lose, and if they lost it would give a definite answer on the limits of their protection, and the last thing the Jets want is for people to know what they can do with the word Jets and the colors. all they are trying to do is bully a small business that doesn't want to waste the money on legal expenses trying to fight it. if they did fight it, the Jets would fold in a heart beat under the guise of 'granting permission" or some other nonsense.
     
  19. FriendlyGiantsFan

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    Is it even if they don't use the logo or the name in the title? They don't own the word Jets and, unless the restaurant is pushing these Jet-themed dishes in some sort of advertising campaign, I don't really see what the issue is.

    EDIT: I read your following posts and I still don't think the Jets have much of a case unless he is using the logo and colors to promote the restaurant. If it's just something on the menu called "Jet Roll" this really seems to be much ado about nothing. If someone is reading their menu they're probably already planning on ordering something unless "well, I wasn't really hungry until I read the bitchin' name of the dish #5" is a more common line of reasoning than I think it is.

    If he's got a marketing campaign built around this, then I see the problem. If he recently changed the colors and/or logo of his restaurant, then I see the problem. If he just decided to put the name of this on the menu now but isn't doing anything else of note differently, what's the issue? After Ben started in Pittsburgh there were "Roethlis-burgers" springing up everywhere. After the 2007 season I saw a deli in NYC with some manner of David Tyree named dish on the menu. Unless the owner is related to, or actually is, David Tyree I am sure this was done only to capitalize on the team's popularity. But if it's not being pushed outside the restaurant, isn't an obvious case of logo mimicry/infringement, and hasn't yielded any noteworthy upturn in profits (which is something I think might have been worth mentioning in this article), why make an issue out of it?

    Even if the Jets are in the right (and they may very well be) is there any way they can emerge from this situation NOT looking like the assholes?
     
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  20. Jets n Boys

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    You can't mix business with emotions. Yeah, they should leave the restaurant alone just because the owners love the Jets. Then again, NYJ is not a non-profit organization and they don't gain anything by leaving it alone. The owners are probably getting more business just because of the name (odd that the owner though the notice was odd).

    Woody Johnson has invested billions in this business, and invests more money EVERY year. He can't let anyone else take advantage of his money.

    Im sorry, what do the dishes have to do with the name "JETS" anyways?
     

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