Are the JETS to trade Kyle Wilson & If so, what is the trade value and positive or negative impacts?

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In your opinion when/how would the JETS get more value out of Kyle Wilson?

  1. Trade him before the draft.

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  2. Trade him during the draft.

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  3. Trade him after the draft.

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  1. Jay Bizniss

    Jay Bizniss Well-Known Member

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    Yea its good we found some use for him, but it wasn't were we all expected him to be at this point in his career.
     
  2. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    The Jets drafted Wilson and immediately had Thurman teaching him the slot position, it's a different job than the outside spot. It just makes no sense to say that they drafted him to play outside and then gave up on their plan to play him outside based on one season of playing the slot all but one game early in 2010. It's odd that you would fully embrace the idea of drafting a player in the first round as nothing but an insurance policy but be totally against the idea that Rex wanted to bolster a position (slot) that he was getting destroyed in the year before when teams started using the spread offense and lighting his defense up in the middle of the field.
     
  3. nevbeats319

    nevbeats319 Well-Known Member

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    wilson had to play outside because revis held out until week 1... but your right he wanted 3 good corners.... but keeping all 3 was impossable for sure
     
  4. Jay Bizniss

    Jay Bizniss Well-Known Member

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    Yes keeping all 3 was impossible... The idea was when either Revis or Cro had to go, Wilson would step up and fill the void.. Fast forward to 2014, and Wilson is the only one left. -_-
     
  5. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    And playing the slot (an important position in today's NFL) well, while the Jets solution the outside corners with other players. No coincidence.
     
  6. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    Nev's point was that the Wilson pick potentially could serve to address keeping Revis, or not. Adding Wilson had hte potential to cover the Jets if Revis held out, or was traded because the Jets did not want to come to an agreement on his contract. On the other hand if an agreement could be worked out with Revis, and Wilson showed he could start, the Jets could consider letting Cro go, keeping Revis, and what would likely be, and was, his expensive contract.

    But all that went down the toilet when Wilson showed he could not play outside with any consistency.

    That is just history, but history aside NFL teams do not use first round picks to intentionally find a part time player. Yes, the slot corner is arguably the most important defensive player off the bench, maybe the second most important on the whole team after third wideout, even ahead of your changeup Rb. But only a team with no other draft day needs would go first round pick for a slot corner.
     
  7. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    But that isn't my point, my point is to dispute the role of Kyle Wilson. You could call this a 1 yr rental but at the end of the day they wanted a long-term CB on the other end while Wilson plays inside where he best fits.

    The attempt (and sorry one at that) to upgrade from Cro to Nnamdi had nothing to do with Kyle Wilson's role on the team.
     
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    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Wilson might be the best slot CB in the league, is that not worth investing a late first round pick (he doesn't give up many plays, he doesn't get many TOs I understand that)?

    Wilson was going to be off the board by the beginning of the 2nd round anyway.
     
  9. Bellows1

    Bellows1 Well-Known Member

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    I don't recall the timing of how everything went down, but this makes the most sense.

    Either way, I'm glad they found some use for him and he turned out pretty solid in his roll.
     
  10. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    You are trying to justify the pick with hindsight. I suppose you are arguing a different question, which is whether even if the Jets hoped to have Wilson start, they nonetheless got value equivalent to the 29th pick even if he only is a slot corner.

    Perhaps one way to answer your question is whether an NFL team ever drafted a corner in the first round stating their intention to put him and keep him as a slot Cb. I know that might seem like a difficult standard to meet, but it would support your case.
     
  11. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    I mean we've seen Wilson play more then just in the slot. He's played safety in the big nickel package, he's got experience on the outside also.

    To an extent, I am using hindsight - but I just don't buy the fact that the Jets planned to put Wilson on the outside. Not when you are acquiring Cromartie, and chasing Nnamdi. I truly believe Rex wanted 3 CBs that can play man. I doubt the Jets back then went the BPA route, I think they were looking for more of a need then the BPA.

    I don't want to cross sports, but I am positive NBA teams draft 6th men all of the time early in the first round - I'll find some NFL examples - it might not be same EXACT position scenario, but role wise I'm looking.
     
  12. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    Might not be the same???

    It is not the same.

    The Jets were concerned they would either not reach a deal with Revis and he would hold out, or if they did reach a deal with him they did not want to tie up too much cap space between Revis and Cromartie. They also thought picking Wilson would give them flexibitily negotiating with Revis. It's called leverage, as in they would not need to come to a deal with Revis if they had Cro and Wilson to start. Were you not a Jet fan then, or have you just forgotten?

    Frankly you are just repeating your opinion over and over. Repeat all you like, you have no evidence the Jets intended Wilson for the slot when they picked him. And by intended I mean medium to long term (of course as a rookie he might come off the bench some in his rookie year, but not other than for a breakin period.)

    This conversation has frankly run its course.
     

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