Anyone bashing Mangini

Mangini doesn't say we play to win the game, he coaches to win the game..I'll bet you if it comes up again in a game he'll do the same thing..and I'll be happy he did..Until they can acquire more horses on defense be f**kin agressive as hell..Don't lie anyone here 4 weeks ago you put this in the we'll get our ass whipped this game category..How about the last play..looked to me like that was coached up also..Mangini is the f**kin man..period!!!

 

Agree 100%. Mangine made all the difference. If we can get more out of the D we are in the thick of it.

 

I'm moving on from that call. Glad Mangini gets the experience now and the team can walk away with their chins up in spite of it.

I only hope he can learn from the defensive approach on Indy's last two drives. There is nothing I despise more than a defense going vanilla/prevent. We should have kept the pressure on Manning rather than dropping everyone into coverage.

If you give Peyton that much time to throw he WILL beat you.

 

sorry guys....

it was the wrong call when you have a tie score and you have just drove 15 or so plays.....

you HAVE to get points here.....just have to.....

the jets talent level on offense is not good enough to go to the well too many times

jil

 

I mean i dont like the call because we couldnt run the ball at that time period, but..... we wereplaying the colts so it is understandable we didnt stop them in the redzone at all, all game so it makes sense to go for it

 

Jil is right, it was an awful decision.

I normally love the aggression, and I love the fact that we'd entertain aggressive ideas like that, but that's just not the situation. You have the lead in the football game for the first time if you win that. Kicking a field goal keeps the momentum on your side. Missing the 3 kills the team since you've gone so far, especially when you have less than a 50% chance of making it.

Now, if you're at the 1 or inside the 1, I might sneak it up the middle and hope I can get it. That way, worst case scenario, the other team has it at the goalline, and you have a decent chance a getting a safety, and you have over a 50% chance of getting in. From the 3, the chances of you running it in aren't that great, and we saw the downside of throwing the ball. You CANT get picked off in that situation.

 

The odds of the Jets holding the colts to ZERO points in the 3rd and 4th quarters are nil. I like the call on 4th and goal. Unfortunately the worst happened (interception, ball at 20 instead of 2). Our D isn't going to stop the colts from scoring, hence 21-17 isn't appealing. He took a chance, and it fails sometimes. I give him credit for it.

 

As much as I have defended the CS today, that was the worst decision of the game on either side of the ball. It was an aggressive rookie mistake for a rookie HC and I hope he learns from it.

 

I'm firmly on the side that it was the right decision. We can debate this back and forth, but no way will I accept that it's the "worst" decision on either side. If it works, you all hail him as a genius. How about that onside kick? You're telling me that's a good decision if it fails too?

 

What did we get for all of Mangini's aggression? A blown chance for 3 easy points in a game that we lost by exactly 3 points.

Being able to make the gutsy call is a very good quality, and I'm glad that Mangini has it (lord knows that our last coaching staff didn't.) At the same time, that aggressiveness has to be balanced by intelligent coaching. Going for the touchdown was a bad decision and it came back to bite us in the ass today.

 

Mangini is a GREAT coach. I think we can all tell that already. However, anyone defending him going for it on 4th down, I have to disagree with. You kick the FG there in a tie game. You just have to.

 

Great call by Mangini have some backbone. Fight hard to the very end I wish they could have gotten that last play in the endzone but what ya gonna do way to stick with the colts and if only we had one Big mother F#$% to clog that line and stop that run.

 

Raving about losses is a loser's attitude.

Now, I agree, it was encouraging, BUT you kick an FG there. Sorry.

 

The decision by Mangini to go for the TD was horrible. Yes he has this team competing, but that call made no sense and cost the Jets the game.

Up to that point, the Jets had done a great job eating clock and keeping the ball out of Manning's hands. They had just taken 9 minutes off the clock. The game was tied and there were 5 minutes left in the third quarter.

With the ball on the 3 yard line, not the 1, you kick. The Jets' running game scares nobody. A 17-14 lead at that point in time would have been big. Gutsy? There's a point where you cross over and gutsy becomes stupid. The decision was stupid. So was the play call. The Colts are not thinking run with the Jets on the 3, so the play action fake fooled no one and the only receiver the Jets have in a pattern is one guy covered by three. And if you don't get in, you need to make sure you pin the team inside the 5. Instead the Colts get the ball at the 20.

The bottom line is that the Jets lost by 3. That means the 3 points Mangini left on the field were critical. Kick that field goal and we are still playing.

You play the game straight. This "we need touchdowns against a team like the Colts" stuff is complete BS. Unless the Jets were down big at that point, going for it made no sense.

At that point, the game was no offensive shoot out. Sometimes coaches over thing and over coach and that is what Mangini did. Bottom line, no matter who you are and who you are playing, at 14-14 with 4th down from the three 99 out of 100 coaches take the three. Period. Did Dungy go for it on 4th down from the 2 on the next possession? Of course not.

Hopefully Mangini learned his lesson and NEVER makes that mistake again.

 

You don't know how the game plays out if we take the FG or not, how do you know that we don't lose by a different score?

 

Agreed JWWS. I watched the taped delay of the game up until that play then my machine cut off..

I just knew they would kick the FG and take the lead. The Jets were moving the ball quite easily and there was no reason to think they wouldn't get back down to the redzone again.

Mangini is a rookie HC. This team is Rebuilding. These things happen when you combine the two. I'm proud as hell the Jets gave the Mighty Colts the game they did today. Not only did they cover the spread, they also served notice to the league that this team, although rebuilding, is no pushover. We're not the 49'ers by any stretch.

Folks need to get a grip real quick. There's a long season to go here. Be happy for the effort today people.!! :up:

 

For all those who say the 4th and Goal decision was a bad call, do you also think it was a bad call to onside kick it. If we don't get the ball, they have it on the 40 and it's a potential easy score for Manning. You can't say good call on one cause it worked and bad on the other cause it didn't. You can but it doesn't make sense.

 

The paly that really hurt here was the 3rd down call, which AFTER A TIMEOUT was a simple run up the middle. There was no flare or no creativity (i.e. a play action fake or a pass into the flat). The 3rd down play left a 4th and Goal from the 3. If you have even a inclination that you are going to go for it on 4th you have to call a play on 3rd down that if you do not make it gives you a better chance to get a TD on 4th. That did not happen.