The constant trading up caught up to the Jets when you had old ass linebackers starting and project players being drafted in the 2nd round. Tanny had a decent run but he crashed and burned after the 2010 AFCCG. The man never tried replenishing the talent that was getting old. Idzik I think will give us depth. Time for a new philosophy. Don't be so quick to judge. Besides Wilson wasn't the only player, they drafted Bobby Wagner whose a beast and drafted Sherman whose no scrub. That defense is strong all around.
This is exactly the point. The Jets do not have big expectations this year. They don't have to do a lot to meet expectations. In that light I think that as long as Rex keeps things together and the Jets make advances in the rebuilding project he's unlikely to be fired. The media are dead wrong on this one. They look at Lovie Smith last year going 10-6 and getting fired and they say Rex is dead coach walking. The thing that got Lovie Smith fired was the Bears missing the playoffs for the 5th time in 6 years. That was unacceptable given that their expectation was to make the playoffs. Lovie Smith would probably still be their head coach if the Bears had gone 8-8 and squeaked into the playoffs. He'd have gotten fired if they were the rare 11-5 team to miss out. Rex isn't on thin ice right now. If the Jets fail to meet expectations by going 4-12 then he could easily get pushed out but if they go 5-11 and the rebuild looks to be working he could easily get another year. If they go 6-10+ and the rebuild is working he'll probably get an extension.
http://nyjetscap.com/salary14.html It hasn't been updated, so taking out Pouha, Tebow, and Sanchez, the Jets are currently set for about $75 million in cap value committed without taking into account that Revis could be traded and maybe have Holmes ($8+ million saved assuming his restructure didn't increase guaranteed money in 2014 and '15) Harris ($5 million) and/or Cro ($5 million) cut. If the Jets were to spend in this year's free agency then you would be correct.
Hiring of Idzy reminds me of Alderson taking over the Mets. At some point there has to be an adult in the room making decisions. Neither Tanny nor Minaya could do the gutting that needed to be done, because for the most part, they created the mess. I can't say exactly why, but my gut tells me that 2 years from now this team is going to be positioned for long term success. Hopefully like the Steelers/Ravens. Teams that year in, year out make the playoffs and are run by professionals. I obviously didn't mention the Pats because, IMO it's been all Brady that has made them what they are. Take him out and there have been many bad decisions that he's covered up. The FO's of the Steelers and Ravens are, to me, the best 2 run organizations in the league.
You'd be hard pressed to find a Jet fan that doesn't like what's happening with the team right now. Once the AFCCG hangover finally wore off, most fans realized we were much further away than "one or two players" and a rebuild was in order. When this team takes it's time, its showing a maturity in the front office that's been missing for a long time. I think fans will be onboard with a few losing seasons if they see progress as a lot of posters have said. Regarding Rex.. His job simply is to manage the rebuild w/o controversy and w/o a total, obvious collapse of the team. He has to demonstrate that the circus has indeed, left town. He doesn't have Tannenbaum anymore and Woody hasn't mention the "e" word yet (extension). The team can't collapse. No more buttfumbling their way to horrible losses and embarrassments. If Rex pulls this off, he buys himself another year and perhaps even an extension on his contract. If the tattoo's and the video's make a comeback and the meltdown of the team happens again in '13, particularly another end of season crash and burn, Rex is finished here.
i wouldn't say THAT. I think "you'd be hard pressed to find a jet fan that doesn't understand what sour ass lemons have to be made into lemonade by way of necessary cuts and low spending on cheap potentially worthwhile players, and doesn't like the moves that have been done to get there." is a better line. we seem to be on a better boat with a more competent navigator, but still have to trek through the s#itty waters that the last guy lead us to. but hey at least it looks like the right way. this is what optimism looks like to the green and white. sigh... go Idzik and go jets...
As is true with about every team ... having a top 10 QB covers a lot of sins. If Sanchez had developed into the QB that was drafted in the top 5 to be, then a gutting of the roster wouldn't be as drastic as it is now. But the draft is what hurt you guys. From my memory, I think from 09-11 the Jets had 12 draft picks, so the roster is going to get old even if you hit the majority of those!
As a Jays fan i have watched this approach in Toronto first hand. Build a nucleus young through the draft and player development. Make your splash when you are on the cusp and need that 'lil' extra. i have never been this excited for a Jays season. If Idzik eats a year or two and sets up the Jets in the same manner i can fully accept that.
the jays havent sniffed a division championship since the 93 if i am correct... havent been in the playoffs either. ill pass on doing things the way the jays do it.
Yea i agree with the Rex part, You can tell in his interviews now he is alot more careful about what he says. And its still up for debate how much power Rex has within the orginization so he has to have a good year to avoid any possiblity of being fired. and i dont think there will be any unneeded distractions like Tebow and media boycotts and buttfumbles. I think Rex could manage to sneak to 9-7 maybe 10-6 at best this year and i wont be surprised if we do get to that,he knows whats on the line better then anyone
There are just 3 players on the Jets roster from the 2007-2009 drafts and 2 of them are Mark Sanchez and Darrelle Revis. That's what has destroyed the talent base on the team. Then you go to 2010 and there were just 4 picks made. This team was built to collapse right after the window from 2008 to 2010 had passed. You can't put it in any kinder terms than that. If Mark Sanchez had become golden boy the Jets would be in real trouble right now moving forward.
he's REALLY careful about what he says to the point where he can basically make no sure statements. it makes him sound like a clueless liar, but really he's playing it politically correct and quiet to a hungry media. he doesn't know who's involved and who's not, he can't make sure statements on those he wants to be aboard or not, and he can't talk about any of these things at the risk of making cocky incorrect muses that derail his professional perception more. he's been neutered by a group that wants him to have balls. its really kind of depressing how this has gone down for him, but putting it all out on the field and getting a winning record can make a world of difference. I don't know about the rest of you but I really want to see Rex hoist the Lombardi if only because it speaks more eloquently on his job performance than he ever could. thats not looking possible this year, but we'll see.
I agree 100%. As to 2013 (and beyond) it starts and ends at QB. A bad QB affects the offense and the defense because it keep the defense on the filed way too long. I cannot believe how bad Sanchez played, and the fact that Rex kept playing him and defending his indefensible play. Put someone else under center and the jets already would be much improved next year.
They dumped dead weight this offseason. With the exception of Keller I could care less about anyone they lost this offseason. I rather them play it smart this offseason and plan long term then spend foolishly trying to force a "win now" mode out of a shitty situation just because the Super Bowl is at MetLife next season
Idzik hasn't really done too much that T-baum wouldn't have done anyway, but glad ur happy. 95% of the actions were dictated by contract issues and/or deteriorating performance.
tanny would have restructured everyone to make a run at avril or mike wallace and further pushed the limits of future cap years. atleast that is the beleif. everyone is happy that idzic seems resigned too take the bullet this year and set up a sound financial structure. don't get me wrong though,i dont think the year is going to be as bad as forecasted