I just don't see more than 6 wins no matter who is the QB. The Schedule maker did us no favors and honestly, the rest of the AFCE has perhaps not closed the gap with the Patriots, but have indeed closed the gap with us.
I'm not going to predict how many wins and losses are going to be have in this season since you can't predict football, but I do agree on what you said about the offense. Under Marty, the offense has a bit more upside since he's an experienced coordinator and will bring the best out of everyone.
5-11 at the VERY BEST, and if SANCHEZ starts and is the "normal" SANCHEZ, then this could get ugly fast and we can start thinking about JADEVEON CLOWNEY, or TEDDY BRIDGEWATER!
Youre All Too Negative Last year we had one of the worst offenses and special teams I've ever seen and a flawed defense (too slow and not able to effectively pressure the quarterback) and this team still won 6 games. If the offense and special teams just become mediocre, that should be worth at least another couple of wins and I expect the defense to be significantly better than last year (although they will have some growing pains with all of those young players). I say somewhere between 8-8 and 11-5, probably 9-7.
my opinion stays the same if mark starts - 4-12 if mark starts and smith finishes 4-12 if smith starts from jump street 5-11 best cast 6-10 worst case 1-15
this is kind of flawed logic, since we dont play the same schedule, and in general NFL opponents fluctate drastically from season to season.
Jets strength of schedule last year was 0.492 (20th in the NFL - http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/56896/2012-nfl-strength-of-schedule) and strength of schedule this year is 0.496 (also 20th in the NFL - http://www.theredzone.org/Features/NFLStrengthofSchedule.aspx). Why is my logic flawed?
Funny I c a lot of .500 and sub .500 predictions now that 2 preseason games are in the books. I remember before the games started most were at .500 or above. Oh we'll I'm unchanged at 5-11. I think Rex is being a bit delusional with how good he expects his D to be. I am not saying its bad but not top 5. It may not even be top 10. With a lights out offense that would be fine but as most of us know we do not have a lights out offense.
I had us winning between 7 and 9 before preseason and I'm moving it up a game after seeing them play. 8-10 wins. They have a legitimate shot to start 3-1 or even 4-0 if we catch New England on a bad day in week 2.
I had us at 5-11 and I still think 5-11. Any improvements on O will be cancelled out with the loss of Revis (and Coples?) on D.
That would definitely shut down the "Sanchez sucks" thread. I think 8-8 would be a pretty good record this year...and most of those wins coming in the back half of the schedule.
I just don't see where the Jets are a worse team than they were a year ago. We were missing Keller, Holmes and Revis all year, so their absences don't hurt us, and maybe Holmes shows up (for better or worse). Howard has a year of experience on this line. If Colon stays healthy, he's an upgrade over a much beloved, but much slowed Moore. Mangold appears to be healthy. Peterman/Winters is probably a wash at worst with Slauson. Do you think our WRs are worse? Was Chaz Schillenz a playmaker? Did I miss that? At the very least, they're young guys who will get better as the season goes on. Our TEs look like a strength on this team if preseason production is any indication (which is always questionable). It's true, Greene is gone. I'll sure miss his ability to run for one yard up the middle, and get pummeled without making any attempt to avoid a tackle. There's no way our current backfield can replace that. On D, I don't think anyone believes our line is weaker. Milliner has to be an upgrade over Kyle "my neck doesn't turn" Wilson, and Crow will be fine. Our Safeties are a legitimate question, but I think we actually did a nice job getting younger and cheaper while leaving plenty of room for our young players to develop. It's not like L. Landry and Y. Bell were going to get any better at their ages. I think the guys we got will be better than Smith and company in previous years. Linebackers are younger and (despite what I read from some of my fellow posters) faster. They have a long way to go mentally, but physically, they are much improved over last years squad. The nice thing is that with young squads, (as with the safties and WRs) they get better and better as the season rolls on. I'm really feeling 7-10 wins this year. I don't know that I'm expecting a fast start though. It's a steep learning curve for those youngsters.
Are you insinuating that 5 wins is beyond this teams capability? I am the first to admit that starting with a totally inept"head coach", who hasnt a clue about one entire side of the ball, is the worst in game manager I have ever seen, has no clue how to use timeouts and manage the clock, and they have historically one of the worst starting QB's in NFL history, they lost their BEST player (by far), and are basically rebuilding the defense and have their 3rd OC in 4 years, BUT I still think they can at least win 5 games and avoid the #1 draft pick, although they are locks for a top 5! If this is better, then save this and post it later!
Vs The Bucs - W At The Patriots - W Vs The Bills - W At The Titans - W At The Falcons - L Vs The Steelers - L Vs The Patriots - L At The Bengals - L Vs The Saints - L At The Bills - W At The Ravens - L Vs The Dolphins - W Vs The Raiders - W At The Panthers - L Vs The Browns - W At The Dolphins - W I had them sweeping the Bills and Fins. But now I think they will split those games. And now I think they will get swept by the Patriots. Thus 3 less wins, 6-10.
The Bills had the same record as the Jets last year and they look vastly improved on paper. We'll see how it is when real football starts. The Dolphins are overrated yes. But they had a slightly better record last year than the Jets and were one kicker away from sweeping the Jets. They are definitely improved from last year. I don't know about the Titans but I honestly feel that the Steelers and Ravens are more talented than the Jets. Oakland is a mess but Cleveland and Carolina have some talent. Unless Mark Sanchez cuts down on the turnovers or Geno Smith a breakout season at QB then I think the ceiling for the Jets is 8-8 tops. And this QB competition the Jets are having is bad for your team. The longer it goes on the worse it will be. I remember it from QB and OL competitions on the Dolphins in recent years. You really want this stuff settled by now so the team can get into a rhythm.
Jake, there are fans here that will swear that a player sucks and die with that belief based on one play...happens all the time. That said, the reason i'd Question Crow is because if you take away last year, he was known as a softie no tackler.... I'm going to give him a pre-season pass but fucker better start tackling Actually scratch that .. No Fucking pass. He should be leading by Example even in the Preseason!
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d822277bc/Austin-steals-jump-ball Hopefully Cro will prove me wrong.
strength of schedule as calculated prior to the season is irrelevant, due to the high amount of transition and fluctuation across the league. we had a cupcake schedule last year. its unlikely that stays the same.
