Yes the Jets roster is better than the raiders, you guys have better WRs and that's about it. Other areas we are simialr or maybe we have an advantage but the only area you have a real advantage is at WR and that's b/c you have the best WR in the game. I think our teams are somewhat similar and I wouldn't go nuts that they have you ahead but I think we should be ahead of both Oak and Hou.
JUst WR ???? ARe you freaking crazy. First off just because you drafted two Olineman(albeit very good ones) they aren't better than raiders Olineman.(first they are rookies). LT R gallery, LG B sims, C J Grove RG Paul"mullet McQuistan and RT langston Walker. You really think your RBs are better than raiders. Okay TEs -Sorry but your tes aren't better than Raiders. Not even close. Raiders without a doubt have the fastest group of Tes in football. (c anderson, James adkisson and Randal williams) Qbs- what do jets have at QB. Ramsey(no one wanted as it only cost a sixth rounder) C Pennington - will he even be around. This one closest thing you are going to come on offense,as being a draw. (for now) BY season end it won't even be close as A walter/ a Brooks is better than anything you have. Defense. Sorry But when you lose two out of your three best players on defense,without even coming close to replacing them. (J abraham, Ty law) outside OF Vilma where are these great players on defense. The diffrence between what raiders have in secondary not even close. Go ahead make your case. LBs Raiders severly upgraded LB corp from last year and shored up one of their achilles heel for years. Lets compare both teams lbs. Defensiveline. Does your Dline have a D burgess(maybe you had Abraham could make acase) Tom Kelly Raiders best Dlineman is better than anything you have on Dline. W sapp even on downsize has outplayed D robertson(who not even a goodfit for new defense) I will make this statement raiders defense alone will win four games next season. (very fast and nasty defense) Please make you case where you think your stronger.
Both our OL's stunk last year, we improved- what did you do? lamont and Curtis were putting up similar #s when Curtis was hurt all year. yes I'll take Curtis, Houston and Blaylock over Jordan and Fargas. baker is better than any of thsoe 3 and Jolley is a good pass ctacher while Dreeseen has a chance to be pretty good. I'd say TE is about even. If healthy we know by far Chad is the best but assuming he is not i'd rather give ramsey a shot than Brooks who has never been a good QB. law was not one of our best defensive players, he was opportunistic and in the right place but he was not great for us and last I checed we were a kick away from the AFC title game 2 years ago and neither Abe or law were playing for us. Brayton, Clark & Morrison are better than Vilma, Barton and Hobson? it's not even close. We have Ellis who is one of the bst all around Des in the league, he had a down year alst year but don't expect that to continue. Sapp over Dewyane? Come on, Sapp has been useless for years and dewayne in '04 was one of the best DTs in the game. Your D has been a joke since 2003 and if it was so good how come w/ a 4th string QB and 3rd string RB we moved the ball at will against you last year? We are stronger on the OL, TE, LB and DBs. Oak is stronger at WR, we are even at DL, QB, RB.
Are you comparing the Raiders (a team that is NOT rebuilding) with the Jets (a team that is deffinately in rebuild mode)? Wow.
12 I put us at 12. But like people have been saying, rankings this early are about as useful as mock drafts. It would be interesting to see what the preseason power rankings were last year at this time.
'05 preseason power rankings 1. Pats 2. Colts 3. Steelers 4. Chargers 5. Cincy 6. Jets 7. Ravens 8. Jags 9. Bills 10 Denver 11 Raiders 12 Chiefs 13 Texans 14 Dolphins 15 Titans 16 Browns Interesting to look at the placement of the Bills, Broncos, Texans and fish.......
Fact is raiders have been rebuilding since 2002. They made there run and it was time to get younger. (rebuild) They are incredible young on both sides of ball. Raiders have taken their lumps last three years but thats what happen when you go youth and implement new systems. Raiders don't be supprised if they are ready to make some noises this year. I don't expect them to be superbowl contenders in 2006 but I expect them to be a playoff team in 2006. Finally raidfers have the pieces in place ,to put there best defense out there in some time. Defense. Defense.
Pats are still the most solid team in division and had a great draft. Maroney alone, IMO, makes them a better team. Bills will be better with Dick jauron and I think his experience alone puts them over the Jets. Pats- 12-4 Miami- 9-7 Bills 6-10 Jets 5-11
Yea, Jauron just knows how to turn a team around... | Reg. Season | Playoffs | +----------+--------------+----------+ | Year TM | W L T | W L | +----------+--------------+----------+ | 1999 chi | 6 10 0 | 0 0 | | 2000 chi | 5 11 0 | 0 0 | | 2001 chi | 13 3 0 | 0 1 | | 2002 chi | 4 12 0 | 0 0 | | 2003 chi | 7 9 0 | 0 0 | | 2005 det | 1 4 0 | 0 0 | +----------+--------------+----------+ | TOTALS | 36 49 0 | 0 1 | +----------+--------------+----------+
Raiderjoe, look every fan is a little jaded when looking at their team. The fact of the matter is, as of this very moment, both the Raiders and Jets are on the bottom of the totem pole in the AFC. This might change for one, or both, this season. It is all sematics, because both teams are not good right now (as of right now, based on where they both finished). The Raiders got old fast, just like the Jets did. The only thing I would point out to you is about the LB corp. You say you need to look past the starters and the Raiders are deep. But you are not looking at the Jets depth at LB. It is very deep, probably the best unit the Jets have on the field right now. They could do with another OLB, but something might shake out in preseason. That is the only point of contention I have with your post. The rest is just semantics and fans looking at their teams through rose colored glasses.
iTs is a tough division, no doubt about it. Now are they the same teams that they were last year. Chargers lost brees who was a big part of offense. (will rivers be as effective) 2. KC Chiefs -age is really starting to creep into that team . Lost Al saunders playcalling and have they done enough on defense. 3 Denver - probably can make the case that they have the best chance to be the same. Question will that exbrowns Dline play as well in 2006 as 2005. (now that c brown recieved the money will he be the dog that he was before) 4 On paper raiders addressed their key needs. Finally believe this is the best defense they will put out on the field in some time. On offense , with way more mobile QB ,(buy a second or two) might be all thats been needed for raiders Wr to gain advantage on secondary. To make noise in divison you have to win divison games. (N turner couldn't) I like starting season with Chargers (inexperience QB on the road)
You made some good points. I don't know if Rivers can step in and be as effective as Brees. In my gut, I kinda doubt it. Ain't it interesting that Herm went to a team with the same age problems that the Jets had. I wonder if he'll take them down the same road, over playing the vets till they get tired and break down at the end of the season? The D line in Denver is the biggest question, but I feel they are the clear favorites in the West.
Your right untill either teams proves it on field, we both are on bottom of the totem poles in AFC. Its silly to look at polls now because history has shown that teams that we thought would be good - won',t and teams that everyone thought would be bad, are in fact a very good team. We have to see changes every team made and how they pan out. I didn't mean to imply look past the starters at Lb. Raiders last year were sorta of like Jets now, have more inside lbs types than outside Lbs. Raiders wanted to play 3-4 last year. They were very solid with K morrison, D clark and reserve Ryan Riddle) inside but they didn't have anything at outside Lb. when Sam williams 6'5 265 was lost in preseason, he was a big part of their OLB plans. Now they didn't have any OLB and were forced to oplay DEs at Lb. The point I was trying to make is thats not case with this year raiders Lb. They are very fast and have alot more ability to cover. (added alot of quality to Lb position) The passing yards Raiders gave up was not from WRs but mostly Tes and RB. Raiders finally have added guys(T howard, D bing, M Huff, S williams and r thomas) That can run like the wind and cover. Fixing one main problems, raiders had on defense for years now. I guess proo0f in the pudding. What they do on field. Onjly point with Jets changing both offense and defense systems. That takes time. Chances of Jets being a supprise team next year is alot harder to believe.
finaly someone i agree with. anyone that says the jets will do over .500 is way too optomistic. yes we had one of the best drafts out of all the teams but we lost some key players as well. even though most of u dislike john abraham, that doesnt change the fact that he was one of the best at his position
