the better explanation is that LT and Greene were both nicked up by that point in the season. The best playmakers we had at that point were our receivers. Add to that the very real possibility that Schotty felt it necessary to address Capn Holmes' issues by trying to get him the ball more. Its a better explanation than sabotage.
I disagree completely. Put BJGE in our lineup and he goes nowhere. You forget that they have this guy named Tom Brady and 90% of the time defenses are playing the pass. That's why he breaks through so often. Brady's got a WR and TE core that can stretch the defense easily. With Shonn Greene, we have no deep threat and can't stretch the defense at all, so him busting out a long run is far less likely, especially when ground and pound isn't utilized effectively or often enough.
Well, there's one of 2 possiblities. Schotty's a complete ignoramus or he did it on purpose. I don't think that many OCs are dumb enough to lean on your struggling QB that has a neck injury during games where you absolutely need to establish the run. I was watching that game with my brothers (who are Giants fans) and the entire game I was yelling at the TV, "RUN THE BALL, SCHOTTY!" But he didn't, especially when it mattered most. That is unforgivable, and probably the main reason he's gone. If Sanchez becomes a victim and we dump him because of Schotty, I'm going to be very unhappy.
Yeah but the point is that by having Sanchez throw the ball as much as he did in that game Schotty was negatively affecting the team's overall chances to win that game but positively affecting the outcome for himself if the Jets did somehow win the game anyway. I think he knew he was toast at that point. I forget which of the columnists said it but somebody said in the week or so after Schotty finally left that the move had been coming since mid-December. It was just timing at that point.
If that's true, that's a fairly damning indictment of Rex. His OC is a lame duck and he STILL won't do anything to assert himself in the offensive game plan? What the fuck was he waiting for? A gunshot from the book depository to take Schotty down for good?
A look at historical NFL statistics show that a majority of good / great quarterbacks in the NFL evolve over time. Eli Manning is a perfect example - he went from being the goat of NY to a two time Super Bowl champion. Drew Brees was benched in his third year. Further, we're not a team like the Panthers who are hell bent on getting their QB the experience he needs damned the results. The Jets are taking a cautious approach by supporting Sanchez with a run game that is supposed to be the featured strength of the team alongside the defense. The reason the Jets do this is because they want to win at the same time that Sanchez develops rather than throw a few years in the hopes that the years beyond that will be that much better. Time will tell whether the strategic approach will work but to suggest that it is an indictment against Sanchez to want the Jets to have a better gameplan is ridiculous. This was highlighted in the Giants game where, when actually running the ball, the Jets were running very well. Schottenheimer has been an underperforming offensive coordinator for six straight years. He underachieved with Sanchez, with Favre, and with Pennington. Eli didn't really take off until the Giants switched offensive coordinators. They were able to find a coordinator who was better able to utilize Eli's talents and it was a winning solution. Hopefully the Jets have found the same in Sparano.
No one including me is saying that a solid running game is irrelevant to a Qb's performance. All Qb's want at least the threat of one, even if part of them would like to throw on every down, since they know that a solid running game helps them. Also I don't think the Jets were effective running the ball in the second half of the Giant game. Check the play by play. Hardly were they "running it very well..." In any event I was just making the point that it is amusing to hear Sanchez supporters complain when the OC, by calling for passing plays, is doing something awful by putting the ball in his hands. I happen to agree with them, but not for the reasons they would say.
Totally agree here. In a stretch run, trying to make the playoffs, with an OC allegedly already half out the door, and to the extent Brad suggests that Schotty even knew he was, you give that OC carte blanche to call whatever plays he wants? And if it is so obvious to Brad that Schotty was by calling the plays he was, was also trying to sabotage Sanchez, then how come Ryan didn't see that, too? Either he didn't because he didn't see it the way Brad does (which of course is what I think is the case), but if he did see it and did nothing, shouldn't Ryan be fired for that alone? And if it was so "obvious" as Brad suggests, and Ryan did not see it, then that also is an awfully damning condemnation of Ryan. More likely this is just conspiracy thinking run amok by Sanchez Fans, who are presently deeply disturbed by Tanny's criticism of MS not progressing as much as Tanny expected, and that on top of all the criticisms of Sanchez having nothing to do with Schotty.
Don't get me wrong, I hated Schotty and wanted to put a brick through the TV watching that game. I just can't buy that the play calls were intentionally to sabotage Sanchez. There are better explanations, like the one I posted above. I think they'd have run the ball more if all the horses were running.
There were some plays called that game that were very questionable, but i did not feel like the running game was effective, either. Certainly not in the third quarter. One of my problems with Greene is his body language too often looks like he's hoping the Jets don't call his number. Not all the time by any means, just after he's taken a big hit.
Remember he played the last half of the season with Cracked ribs. That would go a long way toward what anyone's body language was. I was supprised he kept playing with the ammount of pain he was in.
Cracked ribs? You sure about that? Bruised maybe. No way he was playing with cracked ribs. Was Powell even active at the end of the season? If not, why? Is he that bad? If your starter has "cracked ribs" your backup just has to get into the game.
Seriously, this is an important point. RB is not a position that takes a lot of learning to get into the game. That's why unheralded free agents and late round picks often take a bunch of carries over a few seasons when the need arises and before they are knocked silly and out of the NFL. The Jets can't seem to take advantage of this dynamic though. The last unheralded back who gave the Jets a lot of carries was Adrian Murrell in the mid 90's.
i heard that the ravens are having a hard time signing ray rice and that he might get the franchise tag. does that mean we can trade a first round pick for him if they do that? he was so awesome at rutgers and has proven himself in the league. i just hope tannenbaum doesnt try to trade for another back like he did with kevin barlow and thomas jones, even if thomas jones wasnt half bad.
You can't trade a first round pick for a back that's had as many carries as Rice. As for Powell, they were either protecting him after his terrible performance in Denver, or lost faith in him for the year like they did with Kyle Wilson in 2010. Almost a "we don't have time to fix this right now" approach.
I wouldnt trade shit for Rice, they would probably want 2 firsts at this point. I have said along with others such as Mambo, pray that Martin falls to the 2nd and just draft him.
I just posted this in NFL Free Agency thread but thought it should be noted here as well: Browns offer Peyton Hillis a 3-year deal. It sounds like the deal is around $10M with little in guarantees and high in incentives.
