If we draft Leinart, Penny become a June 1st casualty. There is simply no way you keep them both on the team. The Palmer/Kitna comparison does not apply, as Kitna's salary was paid in discount chips and salsa. His signing bonus was a 6 pack of Schlitz. Penny's contract on the other hand is HUGE. We will not be able to have both Penny and Leinart on the same team. It also means Ramsey will 100% be our opening day starter.
I would disagree with this completely. Penningtons salary is manageable for the year. They'll see how he heals and have to make another decision on him next March. Obviously if we draft Leinart, this will be his final year. I do agree that Ramsey would be the opening day starter only because I can't see Penny being ready by then..
The main core of our 05 roster is still in tact. We would've easily been a playoff team and made a run last year had we stayed healthy. We were only bad last year because of our injuries and brain-dead FO. Had we stayed healthy all those close games and a bunch more would've been wins. We fixed our FO problem and now we just have to have a good draft and stay healthy. Just gotta believe, and I do believe. I'm NOT an idiot, pennyandthejets, please give it up already.
I agree that Ramsey will be the opening day starter... i also dont think that it is a coincedence taht he is only signed for one more year... enough time for a rookie QB to learn the game, then have him take over next year. Ramsey will be gone via FA, and Penny may have to take a back-up QB salary or be cut... It seems like the Jets positioned themselves very well for the future, if they do draft their QB of the future this year (Leinart, Cutler, Young, etc...)
I NEVER said re-sign fielder, get your facts straight. He's been cut and is nothing to this team anymore. I know he will never be re-signed and it would be a stupid move anyway at this point. And I'm not the only one for DeAngelo Williams, ask CMartinHof.
Ease off pal. Quarterbacks at the top of the first round are a gamble every time, whether you like it or not. If some team is willing to trade away their entire draft to get their hands on him, I say do it. Say we pick up the Broncos two first rounders this year, plus next years first rounder, would you really be pissed? Because Id be insanely happy. Anyway, Im not a huge fan of Leinart, Id be disappointed if the Jets traded up to get him, mostly because Ive thought for some time now that hell probably be there at 4, since the Titans like Young apparently and the Saints have too many needs to spend that pick on what amounts to a luxury pick, seeing as they have Brees already. That said, if they managed to get Leinart at 4, I wouldnt be the least bit upset. I dont think he has quite as much upside as some of the high first round QBs of recent drafts, and personally I think its foolish not to give Pennington the chance to make a comeback, but when your getting him with the fourth pick, its hard to argue with Leinarts credentials.
We can pass on Leinart because he is going to be a bust. And we will be very happy in five years when we look back. Leinart is a slow, average armed QB with good touch that is largely a product of his surrounding talent. I hope we do not take him. Trade down in this scenario.
Honestly. who the hell knows. I'm reading all these posts and it's starting to get me a little crazy. We had a few years of continuity and the draft seemed less important. Now that the team went sh*&house in 05 we're back to that old draft desperation. Who do I want, who do we need, who's gonna be a bust. WHO THE HELL KNOWS. At this point a new ball boy would be an upgrade.
the titans might just be saying this so the jets dont trade up and try to get leinart before them. They want the jets to stick with the 4th pick and wait. This is probally a smoke screen.
If this happens, you have to take Leinart. It's not everyday a franchise QB lands on your lap, who wants to be on your team, and he's right there for you to get him. Git-R-Done!
There is no way the Jets are taking Leinart. They simply are not going to invest 4 or 5 years of that kind of $$$$ on an unknown. The bust factor is too high on QBs. The Jets will make all attempts to get out of the #4 spot - the $$$$ is too high to invest in ONE player. The Jets have two QBs , (actually 3), who can run a team. The offense is going to QB friendly - Pennington WILL be ready , by that I mean he will be healed. The question is will he ever be back to where he was a few years ago, thus Ramsey as an insurance policy. The Jets will draft a QB (?Whitehurst or someone similar) in the 3rd or 4th round and Bollinger will be history. I'm sure the Jets have a few prospects that fit their type of player for the right amount of $$$$. The #4 spot allows them to choose their player of choice, but the $$$$ is too high. Trading down allows them still choose their player, but at a more reasonable price.
Wise words. If this rumor were true, however, I can't really envision a scenario in which the Jets would draft Ferguson over Leinart (if only for PR purposes.)
Uh, when your QB is either a guy with an arm that might never work again, a semi-talented QB who has done nothing in the pros, and a short sparkplug QB who's nothing more than a 3, and you have the chance to grab one of the most decorated college QBs ever who has no real weaknesses, you take him and laugh at Tennessee and New Orleans. I doubt this comes true, but if it does, this is heaven on a football field.
You're right man...Lets pass up the BPA if Leinart, a franchise QB, is at 4 and instead sign Jay Fiedler, why not?
Well wait it's not like we SIGNED Ramsey this year, we traded, and will have him for just one year anyway. So if he does show anything he'd need to be resigned, and he'd already be close to the wrong side of 30? I'd much rather take a 22 year old QB with a proven winner's mentality and experience in a pro-style offense than a guy who is going to have to learn whatever we do anyway, and could never cut it in the place he spent his whole career thus far.
Yea, I heard John Clayton on Mike and Mike talking about this as the nightmare scenario for the Jets, because if the Titans take Young, their is a good chance the Jets new brass will pass Leinart and take D-Brick, which actually might cause a mass rebellion of middle aged guys in Jets jersey's storming the staging destroying all in their path....but I think if he falls to four they'll take Leinart.
I really don't know. There are still alot of experts saying that Leinart has a mediocre arm and other saying that he is a proven winner and thats what matters. So, who do you do? If Leinart comes in and after 3 years his arm reminds us of Chad's, we'll all be saying "We should have taken Brick". I have been a huge proponent of Ferguson and still am, but I cannot deny the importance of Leinart's position and the fact that he has performed extremely well at QB on a high profile team. On the other hand you ccannot deny the dominance Ferguson has showed at OT, and the difference he can make at that side of the line. If it came down to it I would have a really tough time making the decision. My biggest question is: why the hell would Tennessee want Young before Leinart? That, if anything, is an amateur hour move that seems based on performance in 1 game and 1 measureable, his 40 time.
